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Yeah, gauges normally have a cable that pulls to increase the gauge reading, so pushing on the probe gives you the opposite effect if it has range for it.
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I'm having issues using this tool. I can connect it to my Kossel, load my EEPROM settings in the advanced section, and I make sure that the probing method is Z-Probe, but when I check hieghts, it crashes into the build plate and wants to keep going. Any idea as to what might be causing this?
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hello !
At the present time it is impossible to download the link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B06WCA ... J4aGc/view
Google say :twisted: s that the virus is detected in a file, and download only the owner can. The same goes for previous versions.

Waiting for a new ssyku or repair this) :D
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anionanion wrote:hello !
At the present time it is impossible to download the link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B06WCA ... J4aGc/view
Google say :twisted: s that the virus is detected in a file, and download only the owner can. The same goes for previous versions.

Waiting for a new ssyku or repair this) :D
This happens sometimes with portable applications. I went ahead and uploaded the binaries to Github, so this program can be downloaded in the release section of the repository.

https://github.com/RollieRowland/OpenDACT/releases
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First off, thanks for the wonderfull program you made here.
Works like a charm!
I'm missing some rigidity in my system tho as my measurements always fluctuate 0.01-0.03mm.
Has me wondering what's the cause.
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Thank you for creating such a great idea!
Unfortunately doesn't seem to work on my Zonestar D810B machine :(
Am on Mac using parallels desktop windows 7 - 64 bit.

Tried to use the latest version of DeltaKinematicsCalibrationTool.exe but when I clicked on connect and calibrate this happens to my display:

https://goo.gl/photos/SW6fZ4voi94ZjC9N9

It doesn't seem to calibrate, upon restart everything goes back to normal but really hope someone can help out with my Delta printer's calibration. Been trying to crack my head on this for weeks now and this youtube video seems to be the only last option I have left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im5MDpTkzCM

Am using Zonestar's D810B delta printer now and below is my auto calibration log using Gcode G32 to probe the axis levels (which are way off at the extreme ends and not consistent in the middle print areas). Have already tried doing G32 a few times but getting similar results (printer isn't auto-calibrating well).
17:19:50.126 : SelectExtruder:0
17:19:50.126 : X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:311.587 E:0.0000
17:19:50.126 : Info:Autoleveling enabled
17:20:15.505 : Z-probe:5.11 X:-0.48 Y:1.71
17:20:42.265 : Z-probe:5.11 X:-0.48 Y:1.71
17:20:52.961 : Z-probe:5.11 X:-0.48 Y:1.71
17:21:00.132 : Z-probe:5.11 X:-0.48 Y:1.71
17:21:23.324 : Z-probe state:L
17:21:48.625 : Info:Autoleveling disabled
17:21:55.246 : SelectExtruder:0
17:21:55.246 : X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:311.587 E:0.0000
17:22:03.115 : Z-probe:3.11 X:-64.00 Y:-64.00
17:22:05.278 : Z-probe:4.59 X:-64.00 Y:-32.00
17:22:07.696 : Z-probe:4.41 X:-64.00 Y:0.00
17:22:10.080 : Z-probe:4.54 X:-64.00 Y:32.00
17:22:12.357 : Z-probe:3.88 X:-64.00 Y:64.00
17:22:15.586 : Z-probe:4.13 X:-32.00 Y:-64.00
17:22:17.926 : Z-probe:4.49 X:-32.00 Y:-32.00
17:22:20.391 : Z-probe:4.73 X:-32.00 Y:0.00
17:22:22.840 : Z-probe:4.56 X:-32.00 Y:32.00
17:22:25.243 : Z-probe:4.43 X:-32.00 Y:64.00
17:22:28.617 : Z-probe:4.41 X:0.00 Y:-64.00
17:22:31.007 : Z-probe:4.49 X:0.00 Y:-32.00
17:22:33.427 : Z-probe:4.53 X:0.00 Y:0.00
17:22:35.819 : Z-probe:4.53 X:0.00 Y:32.00
17:22:38.315 : Z-probe:4.91 X:0.00 Y:64.00
17:22:41.718 : Z-probe:3.98 X:32.00 Y:-64.00
17:22:44.029 : Z-probe:4.50 X:32.00 Y:-32.00
17:22:46.431 : Z-probe:4.45 X:32.00 Y:0.00
17:22:48.803 : Z-probe:4.50 X:32.00 Y:32.00
17:22:51.205 : Z-probe:4.40 X:32.00 Y:64.00
17:22:54.341 : Z-probe:3.14 X:64.00 Y:-64.00
17:22:56.462 : Z-probe:4.38 X:64.00 Y:-32.00
17:22:58.849 : Z-probe:4.45 X:64.00 Y:0.00
17:23:01.238 : Z-probe:4.49 X:64.00 Y:32.00
17:23:03.500 : Z-probe:3.83 X:64.00 Y:64.00
17:23:04.374 : plane: a = -0.0006 b = 0.0035 c = 4.3125
17:23:04.405 : Transformation matrix: 1.000000 0.000000 0.000625 0.000002 0.999994 -0.003453 -0.000625 0.003453 0.999994
17:23:04.405 : CurrentZ:4.49 atZ:4.50
17:23:04.405 : Z after rotation:4.50
17:23:04.405 : Printer height:313.58
17:23:04.405 : Info:Autoleveling enabled
17:23:04.405 : X:64.00 Y:63.98 Z:4.668 E:0.0000
17:23:04.405 : Info:Autoleveling disabled
17:23:13.521 : SelectExtruder:0
17:23:13.521 : X:0.00 Y:0.00 Z:311.575 E:0.0000
17:23:13.521 : Info:Autoleveling enabled

Sincerely hope someone could help, many thanks!
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Hi! First of all I want to thank you for creating this amazing tool!! It has helped me a ton with calibrating my printer!

I was wondering if there is any way to keep it from changing endstop offsets. I manually jogged the nozzle to an exact center between all 3 towers and measured the offsets using G132 S2, now everytime I home, the nozzle is in perfect center between the towers. However, when I run calibration, the endstop offsets are changed and when the printer thinks it is centered, it actually is off by a few mm. Printing first layer is almost perfect (struggled a lot to get the first layer right and then finally came across this tool).
It's only when I print taller objects, they come out wavy vertically instead of getting a straight line.
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So a bit nervous to try this program without asking. Is OpenDACT compatible with the HE280 Accelerometer probe? I've searched but not seen anything definitive one way or another.
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It's not.

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In order to run the OpenDACT program in Windows 10, I just need to download the program, connect it to my V2, reset eeprom, adjust the diagonal rod length and change the option from FSR to z-probe? For some reason when I do this, the hot end crashes into the build plate like it is using an FSR.
Thanks in advance for your help
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Are their plans to make this work with the HE280 and be automated? The newest SeemeCNC firmware is better but it's still not perfect and I'm REALLY getting frustrated with this printer. It would seem that your tool will solve all of out problems and do it easily and would be dead simple with the accelerometer probe
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I would think not. This app has its share of issues and is not cross platform. This tool WILL NOT solve all the problems. Dave Crocker's web based delta configuration wizard is quite excellent and his auto calibration will do the best job available, bar none. You can also calibrate your printer manually.

What I have observed with the HE280 auto cal is that it gets the delta radius calibration right - which is the difficult one to do manually. It seems to mess up the tower offsets - which is simple bed leveling. So it is easy to tweak these manually to get level.

Autocalibration is NOT a silver bullet though. Even with a well calibrated and mechanically built machine, many things are dynamic and can result in first layer print problems. The larger the area of the print, the higher the probability that something small will cause a problem. I have no doubt the any gremlins in the firmware calibration will get sorted out, the form of calibration that they are doing is very simple. But there are memory and processing power constraints on RAMBo so it will ever be as good as David's least squares fit calibration which is both very fast (<30 seconds) and results in excellent calibration. But even with it, there will be occasional issues as these machines are not static beasts that never change. David is working on auto compensation and i started testing that the other day. The combination of auto calibration and grid based compensation is the ONLY complete solution. Don't expect delta grid compensation nor expect 7 factor calibration on Repetier firmware. But for what it does at the price point it does it at, the V3 and RAMBo are good compromises. It is a small percentage of V3s that are experiencing calibration issues, not even close to the majority of V3s present this issue so I am sure a solution be it mechanical or firmware will be found. In the meantime, if your printer presents the known level issue you can simply do a manual leveling adjustment and move on. But I highly recommend you not go down this OpenDACT path without reading EVERY post here to see exactly what issues lurk.

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mhackney wrote:In the meantime, if your printer presents the known level issue you can simply do a manual leveling adjustment and move on. But I highly recommend you not go down this OpenDACT path without reading EVERY post here to see exactly what issues lurk.
How does one go about that? I'm running the Dev branch firmware and it's very good. According to the G29 terminal output it's got me at .01mm error between the towers(after 4 runs of G29), BUT i'm still having bed tilt issues and it's driving me insane.
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Lik Doug68 said in the other thread, this does not look like bed tilt.
It looks like first layer adhesion problems in combination with a filament that shrinks a lot when cooling, like ABS.
The larger your object, the more frantically it shrinks and pulls up previous layers.
Solutions: ABS juice or better printsurface, more bedheating, enclosure
But that is better discussed in the other thread you started.
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DeltaCon wrote:Lik Doug68 said in the other thread, this does not look like bed tilt.
It looks like first layer adhesion problems in combination with a filament that shrinks a lot when cooling, like ABS.
The larger your object, the more frantically it shrinks and pulls up previous layers.
Solutions: ABS juice or better printsurface, more bedheating, enclosure
But that is better discussed in the other thread you started.
Except it only and always occurs in the same spot. it's not adhesion issues it's bed slant you can see it when it prints the ring around the object. it's squished on the YZ side and round on the XZ side
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It is likely a combination of these factors. The V2 guides have an entire section on calibration. The first step to calibrate end stop offsets is all you need to do.

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While it does appear the skirt around that corner is kind of high, the "bent" corner you see is /classic/ ABS warp. To the point where if I was going to write a textbook on 3D printing, I'd use your photo to describe ABS warp. (Unless of course you're using PLA, in which it STILL looks like classic ABS warp, but at least I'll shut up about it. :D )

Just for giggles, re-print that part with a 6mm brim and see how it comes out.

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I've occasionally gotten some lift on larger PLA prints, but nothing like that. That looks like ABS to me.
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Hey guys, I just tried to use OpenDact manual calibration and it was giving me weird numbers back. It wanted me to change the Horizontal Radius to 59! I had to go back and use the javascript html page. That worked fine. I went through about 7 iterations and everything is within about 0.1-0.2mm.

I was using OpenDact 3.0.1 because I, currently, can't compile the program so had to use the one with the binary.

I was wondering if there was some setting I needed to set to use OpenDact manually. I got back non-sensical numbers.

I'm still running the old 0.91 firmware but since I am using manual calibration that shouldn't matter. I used a dial gauge to get the offset from the center zero.

Thanks.
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DerStig wrote:
mhackney wrote:In the meantime, if your printer presents the known level issue you can simply do a manual leveling adjustment and move on. But I highly recommend you not go down this OpenDACT path without reading EVERY post here to see exactly what issues lurk.
How does one go about that? I'm running the Dev branch firmware and it's very good. According to the G29 terminal output it's got me at .01mm error between the towers(after 4 runs of G29), BUT i'm still having bed tilt issues and it's driving me insane.

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That's not bed tilt. What settings are you using? I run my bed at 110C with a piece of aluminum as heat spreader. And the Hotend at 230 with an enclosure. If you don't enclose it, your printing will peel from the corners. If you don't have a super strong heating pad for your bed, ie. non-stock, your bed will vary about 15C from center to edge. That's why it's peeling.
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raphaelm wrote: I'm missing some rigidity in my system tho as my measurements always fluctuate 0.01-0.03mm.
Has me wondering what's the cause.
I would say this is great. 0.01-0.03mm variation is from my understanding the accuracy you can expect. See in the data sheet of your gauge.
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Hey guys

I'm trying to calibrate my custom built Delta Printer.
But I must have set someting worn in the tool, because the results get worse instead of better...

I was using OpenDACT 3.10A

Here I started a tuning process, and I stopped, because Its not working, but you can see, that its getting worse...
[img]http://forum.seemecnc.com/download/file ... &mode=view[/img]

And Here are my setting (default)
[img]http://forum.seemecnc.com/download/file ... &mode=view[/img]
This is the Log...
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Connected
EEPROM capture initiated
Calibration Iteration Number: 1
Continuing Calibration
Tower:False SPM:False Alpha:True HRad:False
ABC:209.5078 329.7211 90.13946
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 2
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:False Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :-0.1599782 -13.25022 -0.07998911 -26.86886 0 -26.38608
Offs :-2028.193 -2122.97 -2032.08
Hrad correction: 0.1999728
HRad: 180.2
VHeights :0.02749626 -13.23147 0.03249558 -26.77512 0 -26.26109
Offs :-2036.192 -2124.303 -2023.415
No Hrad correction
Offs :88.11084 0 100.8883
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 3
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :-2.719998 -222.5173 -1.359999 -450.2928 0 -443.0833
Offs :-35743.66 -35950.78 -36323.55
Hrad correction: 3.399997
HRad: 183.6
VHeights :0.6799995 -166.197 0.3399997 -336.5189 0 -328.8372
Offs :-26928.86 -26984.86 -27206.52
Hrad correction: -0.8499993
HRad: 182.75
VHeights :-0.1699999 -180.2767 -0.08499993 -364.9615 0 -357.3979
Offs :-29132.5 -29226.28 -29485.72
Hrad correction: 0.2124998
HRad: 182.9624
VHeights :0.02921872 -180.2568 0.03453122 -364.8619 0 -357.2651
Offs :-29141 -29227.7 -29476.51
No Hrad correction
Offs :335.5137 248.8184 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 4
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :2.073354 172.622 1.036677 346.1007 0 346.4081
Offs :27839.88 27849.48 27666.85
Hrad correction: -2.591692
HRad: 180.3708
VHeights :-0.5183383 129.6914 -0.2591692 259.3756 0 259.3231
Offs :21120.72 21015.13 20717.31
Hrad correction: 0.6479229
HRad: 181.0187
VHeights :0.1295845 140.424 0.06479226 281.0569 0 281.0944
Offs :22800.47 22723.67 22454.65
Hrad correction: -0.1619807
HRad: 180.8567
VHeights :-0.02227235 140.4088 -0.02632186 280.9809 0 280.9931
Offs :22806.95 22724.75 22447.63
No Hrad correction
Offs :359.3164 277.1211 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 5
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :0.4400222 36.57982 0.2200111 73.58115 0 73.49393
Offs :6189.809 6132.699 5872.589
Hrad correction: -0.5500277
HRad: 180.3067
VHeights :-0.1100056 27.46874 -0.05500278 55.17514 0 55.01154
Offs :4763.804 4682.249 4397.694
Hrad correction: 0.1375069
HRad: 180.4442
VHeights :0.01890721 27.48163 0.02234488 55.23959 0 55.09748
Offs :4758.303 4681.332 4403.652
No Hrad correction
Offs :354.6509 277.6797 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 6
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :0.1333332 11.04122 0.06666659 22.41518 0 22.24926
Offs :2119.045 2050.638 1780.342
Hrad correction: -0.1666665
HRad: 180.2775
VHeights :-0.02291665 11.02559 -0.02708331 22.33706 0 22.14509
Offs :2125.712 2051.749 1773.12
No Hrad correction
Offs :352.5919 278.6288 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 7
Continuing Calibration
Tower:False SPM:False Alpha:True HRad:False
ABC:209.8156 329.8797 90.06017
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 8
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :0.08667374 6.860276 0.04333687 14.19611 0 13.91259
Offs :1434.083 1369.268 1188.342
Hrad correction: -0.1083422
HRad: 180.1692
VHeights :-0.01489705 6.850119 -0.0176056 14.14532 0 13.84488
Offs :1438.417 1369.99 1183.647
No Hrad correction
Offs :254.7692 186.343 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 9
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :0.03685497 -0.3445101 -0.006884798 -0.229965 0 -0.4946545
Offs :186.3295 128.3286 36.82776
No Hrad correction
Offs :149.5017 91.50081 0
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 10
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :0.06001918 4.645482 0.03000959 9.701002 0 9.429336
Offs :881.8104 826.4779 833.1454
Hrad correction: -0.07502398
HRad: 180.0941
Tower Offsets and Delta Radii Calibrated
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 11
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:False Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :-0.003288761 -0.3590479 -0.02672242 0.1391668 0 -0.2182557
Offs :10.16529 -67.75176 25.8729
No Hrad correction
Offs :77.91705 0 93.62466
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 12
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :-0.03002927 -0.4683785 -0.0400143 -0.4017672 0 -0.7001047
Offs :3.327781 -74.67357 112.6585
No Hrad correction
Offs :78.00135 0 187.3321
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 13
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:True Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :1.806687 143.9698 0.9033434 305.2922 0 300.2098
Offs :23675.97 23274.71 24683.34
Hrad correction: -2.258358
HRad: 177.8358
VHeights :-0.4516716 106.5604 -0.2258358 229.7193 0 224.3234
Offs :17820.98 17319.36 18627.61
Hrad correction: 0.5645895
HRad: 178.4004
VHeights :0.1129179 115.913 0.05645895 248.6112 0 243.2937
Offs :19284.82 18808.29 20141.63
Hrad correction: -0.1411474
HRad: 178.2592
VHeights :-0.01940776 115.8998 -0.02293645 248.545 0 243.2055
Offs :19290.47 18809.23 20135.52
No Hrad correction
Offs :481.2402 0 1326.289
Tower offset calibration error, setting default values.
Tower offsets before damage prevention: X481.2402 Y0 Z1326.289
Setting EEPROM.
Calibration Iteration Number: 14
Continuing Calibration
Tower:True SPM:False Alpha:True HRad:False
VHeights :-1.353333 -113.0556 -0.6766667 -226.009 0 -226.6497
Offs :-17532.82 -18078.42 -16701.45
Hrad correction: 1.691667
HRad: 179.9509
VHeights :0.3383334 -85.03349 0.1691667 -169.3994 0 -169.8052
Offs :-13147 -13617.41 -12165.26
Hrad correction: -0.4229167
HRad: 179.528
VHeights :-0.08458334 -92.03922 -0.04229167 -183.5518 0 -184.0163
Offs :-14243.41 -14732.62 -13299.26
Hrad correction: 0.1057292
HRad: 179.6337
VHeights :0.01453776 -92.02931 0.01718099 -183.5022 0 -183.9502
Offs :-14247.64 -14733.32 -13294.68
No Hrad correction
Offs :485.6797 0 1438.644
Tower offset calibration error, setting default values.
Tower offsets before damage prevention: X485.6797 Y0 Z1438.644
Setting EEPROM.
I hope someone can help me with this.
Thanks in advance ;)
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Vido
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Re: OpenDACT(Delta Automatic Calibration Tool) - For Repetier

Post by Vido »

This is ultimate tool for delta printers, but I do not use REPetier so I hoped that some could help me find a way to make it work with Marlin, right now I dont need latest OpenDACT, I would be fine with Delta-Bed-Calibration-Tool but I cant figure out how to translate Alpha Rotation, Delta Radius, XYZ offset, Horizontal Radius to Marlin tnx :)
whaleboy
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Re: OpenDACT(Delta Automatic Calibration Tool) - For Repetier

Post by whaleboy »

Hello...

It's been a while since anyone posted here, but I just discovered this. I found the html version, but the latest openDACT is 3.1.1a on github, but there is no release link for that version (there is for 3.1.0a). Is there a build for 3.1.1a or is that still not ready?

Thanks

-David
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