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I received the first production prototype today, and wow! These are expertly made, very sharp, and the presentation in the box is awesome!

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The plan is to do the install at The MakerHive on Thursday. I'll have some more pictures then, as well as a report of how everything fits and installs. Stay tuned!


I'm impressed with how well the ShapeOko did, I'm definitely going to have to start playing with mine more!
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For some reason Jimustanguitar's pics are super zoomed in when I looked at them. I am just reposting them here in hopes they will behave for everyone.
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Those look awesome!

Inventables contacted me today about the Shapoko mill work on those alum pieces. I linked him to this forum thread, so they may be contacting you. Great work.
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Zach Kaplan locked on to my tweet about it right away... Your work definitely got Inventables's attention :)
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Jimustanguitar wrote:Zach Kaplan locked on to my tweet about it right away... Your work definitely got Inventables's attention :)

Well guys.. I am pretty amazed that anyone outside of our small group gives this a second glance. I understand they are looking at it from the Shapeoko side of it. I am flattered to say the least... I have to admit that I am impressed with my little mill and love it to DEATH! Milling and 3D printing are the biggest free time joys I have in my busy life and I love them both. I am excited to know that Inventables has shown interest in the milling. I found out last night that I am flying out tomorrow until the 16th... I was supposed to fly out Friday and be home Monday then go back out Tuesday... So I have lost the only 3 days of milling time I had next week sadly. I am working to send you guys up some color samples over the weekend so we can get that done and make sure everyone is happy with their anodize color of choice. When I get back I have to mill a mount for Eagle ASAP to keep my promise with him and as a personal gift for all he has done for this community.

If someone needs to reach me they can use the [email protected] email. It will just be until after the 16th before I can do anything else or record a video and such if desired as I am stuck on assignment in Atlanta until then.

I will be stopping by but everyone please keep in mind I can not mill again until after the 16th. Sorry guys! Boss man needs me out shooting and the cash is helping to buy the larger mill i need for the next project so i have to go shoot whenever I am called out these days.
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Whenever you get back and make another run of these I would like to order one or two. I just ordered an E3D and will probably order a yellowjacket board or two as well. Hoping to have one for the oem hotend and one for the E3D.
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Just found this write up about the project. Very flattered to have my work noticed. http://blog.inventables.com/2015/02/cus ... e.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Super huge thanks to the guys at the MakerHive! It was their tweeted shot of my work that got it noticed. Thanks again guys!
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Hey Everyone,

I am back home for a few days and working hard on the mill to get some of the last test mounts out the door and also to make corrections from the first beta tester worked into the tool paths. I am only home for a few days again this week but I plan to mill as much as I can while I am home. The new custom CNC mill is just about ready to be ordered. It will take a week or so to get it made and then about another one to get it installed and dialed in. After that I hope to catch up much faster as my cycle times should be greatly reduced so I can make better use of my limited time at home each week for milling. I also added a few new colors to the anodize selection to now include Gray ,Green, Copper, Bronze and another shade of Yellow.
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We already had bare aluminum, Bright Red, Orange, Deep Red, Black, Yellow (touch of green to it) and Sapphire Blue.

I also got in the first shipment of carbon fiber sheet for the carbon fiber mount I was working on. Once I get caught up with everything here I will start working on it. I am not sure it will work with the YJ as it is more designed to reduce weight as much as I can and also to appeal to the CF lovers out there like me.

To be realistic I will remain a bit behind while I am awaiting the new mill to step into production. The cycle time for each mount alone (not including spacers or lock ring and anodizing) is over 26hrs if all goes well. I am still running the Shapeoko 24/7 while home, but the new mill will reduce the cycle time to about 6hrs or less which will really help me to get caught up with everyone. I thank every for their interest in the mount and I hope everyone knows I am working hard to get caught up and have mounts ready for order shortly.
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The new E3D V6 heatsink arrived today for the anodizing test. Should know early next week if it will anodize well or not. Looking forward to finding out and hoping for the best. Kills me to be across the country for work and know that this is waiting for me to test back home.
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I hope these look as amazing as I think they will!

Tell us more about your new anodizing deal. Can you make these in chrome or clear yet? :)
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Jimustanguitar wrote:I hope these look as amazing as I think they will!

Tell us more about your new anodizing deal. Can you make these in chrome or clear yet? :)

Man you are fast! The ink on that deal has hardly dried yet! Well the cat is out of the bag so might as well talk about it. Anodize dyes are hard to find in small patches. Most places want you to buy a large amount of dye or not even call them. For the larger shops this is fine and saves them a good deal of money to buy in bulk. But for the smaller shops or the hobbiest this just does not work well. Caswell does ofer smaller sizes (roughly 2 gallon tank sized patches) but some of their dyes leave a bit to be desired. I personaly dislike their "black" as I find it to be more of an "eggplant purple" type black in sunlight and not a true coal black. So I set out to find a place to get smaller patch sized amounts of good anodize dyes. My search ended at anodizeworld.com which is a small shop out of Canada. He is in fact a maker of high end bike parts who anodizes his work in house much like I do my stuff. He dyes are from a US company, but again must be bought in bulk. So he repackages the dyes into smaller sizes for hobbiest and resales them. I have used his dye for over a year and never had a dye related issue. He ships pretty fast and does not charge an arm and leg for shipping ether. But there is the rub... Shipping to the USA is a pain and costs him more than he charges for shipping.

So he has approched me to keep stock on hand and full his USA orders. I will have pretty much the same range of items he does (more as time goes along) and I will fill all the USA orders and offer a flat rate shipping with tracking here in the USA. There is not many sources for these small patches of dye and we hope to offer a service that will allow more people to anodize thier work in their own shops of they choose. We are still working out all the details and it will be about 3 - 4 weeks before I have stock on hand. But the plan is to offer pretty much the same items he does but here in the USA to save on shipping cost and shipping times.
I am in hopes this will allow more folks to explore the world of anodizing and I think it might also allow a few makerspaces and such to approch anodizing without being stuck with huge amounts of dye just to get started or to knockk out a small project or two from time to time. By offering the needed supplies in smaller batches I think more folks will be able to enjoy the hobby with muuch lower upfront costs.


As far as your opther two questions about chrome and clear coating. I have not had a chance to look into any sort of plating tech yet for my work. I have been testing with some powder coating stuff for a client and so far things are going well. Their are "chrome" style powder coatings that might do what you want. But i would not think it would be wise on the heatsink. A plating might be OK but I am not set up yet for something like chrome plating. That being said, there is a plating place just down the street from me which I could check whit but I am sure they would want a good sized run to make it qworeeth their time. I think the clear coating falls into the same area of coatings, which is not something I think I want to mess with too much as I think it ight remove some of the cooling effect of the heatsinks. For now I am just going to be testing anodizing them and seeing how that works.
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So spoke with the CNC shop today and will be ordering the mill in the AM. 1 to 1.5 week turn around as he got slammed with 3 orders over the weekend ahead of me. Looks like the Shapeoko will be pushing hard for a few more weeks to try and keep up with all the milling until the new unit arrives. I even gave in and ordered it built instead of a kit this time. I need it ASAP and that will save 3-4 days of build time alone.
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How can I get one of these mount kit's? How much?
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DerStig wrote:How can I get one of these mount kit's? How much?

I am working now to get production up on these mounts. It will be about 3 weeks or so more until I have the new mill onsite and set up. At that time the production will be much faster then the one mount a day with the Shapeoko. I am thinking a price point of $35-$40 which includes the custom length carbon fiber spacers and the SS M3 hardware for mounting and holding the print head. 3 M3 nylon screws are also included if going to work with a Yellowjacket board so nothing will short on the board. Shipping is extra, but we use the USPS priority flat rate boxes and do not charge extra over shipping cost on shipping. This gets most places in the US i about 3-4 days and has tracking also.
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So the E3d V6 heatsink anodize test was a 100% success! I will be doing a few limited runs of these and heater blocks in the coming weeks. I also will be looking into the Chimera and Cyclops heatsinks and possibly heater blocks. BUT these must be new units as the brass fittings in the stock mounts can not be anodized. I source these direct from E3D without their brass fittings installed and install the fittings after I anodize.
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So which cnc mill are you going to get?
I would be interested in purchasing some anodizing dye when you get them instock.
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DavidF wrote:So which cnc mill are you going to get?
I would be interested in purchasing some anodizing dye when you get them instock.

I bought a custom CNC router from a small shop up in Detroit. It has a work area of 21x37x8 and is full ball screws with dual ball screw Y axis drives. I am running 4 NEMA 23 381 oz/in 2.8mH motors on 4 Leadshine DM442 digital drivers controlled by a MK3/4 Planet-cnc.com control board. Spindle is a 1.5kw water cooled VFD "china" spindle for now. Saving up for the ATC spindle shortly. I did my research and I landed again and again at this guy's shop for price and features. But until I have it here and run a few jobs on it I am holding off on the website name in case it is a lemon and I would hate for someone else to buy from them and get burned somehow. I'm sure it is fine, but until I know in person how good something this expensive works I tend to play it on the safe side about recommending them to others. If this mill goes well I also plan to buy a 0704 CNC converted mill from this same shop. So far everything looks great and very ridge for a router. It is built from 2" 1/4 extrusions and 3/4" Mic 6 ground plates. I should know in about a week or so.

For the anodizing dye, you can either PM me here or shoot me an email at [email protected] and I can answer any questions or see about making sure what you want is in the first order I get so I can get it out to you faster.
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Well I survived the 2 weeks of shooting on the west coast and got a chance to come home at last for more than just a day or two between shoots. I have been milling on some new prototypes and think I have refined the designed to the point that I am happy for the E3D V6 version which will work with or without a Yellowjacket board. The new mill arrives tomorrow or Monday but until then the Shapeoko is hard at work on new prototypes. I will be looking at the SEEMECNC stock mount next and also one for J head mounts off some feedback from a beta tester. One of my beta mounts has been out in the wild now for a few months and has logged over 300 hours and had only one issue which was fixed the same night and has not resurfaced. I should have these mounts ready to go shortly and will be filling orders as best I can once I have everything in stock to do so.
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travel,

your work looks amazing! it is just what I have been looking for. can you please p.m. me with pricing, ... will be ordering a V6 soon and a yellowjacket. any tips on what I will need to get it all sorted would be great.

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there is a place here in Wilsonville Oregon called leadtek, http://www.leadtekplating.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; they nickel plated some custom pieces I had lazercut to make golf ball dispensers I modified from giant gumball dispensers. they have also allowed me to piggyback small parts on some of their big production runs.... they specialize in small parts, nickel and cad plating and other types, but no chrome.

so if we get enough parts we want to plate as opposed to anodize, I am happy to facilitate this for everyone.

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So I have been working on the what I hope will be the final version of the mount. It has been expanded to cover working with and without the Yellowjacket board on both the E3d V6 and a standard J head mount print head. I listened to the feedback from my BETA testers and worked as best I could to make the changes they asked for.

The biggest change to the mount is a small notch cut into the side to allow clearance for both the E3d V6 and the standard J head style to fit into it with ease. This should allow me to just have one mount style in stock for both the E3d V6 and the standard J head style hot ends. The new notch allows for mounting either style to the same mount without any changes on the users end other than switching out the hotends and screwing down the screws once more.
The new notch for clearance on the mount.
The new notch for clearance on the mount.
The notch allows for a 16mm wide passage. The recess holds the mounting flange of both an E3d V6 or a J head style hotend.
The notch allows for a 16mm wide passage. The recess holds the mounting flange of both an E3d V6 or a J head style hotend.
The mount works both with and without a Yellowjacket board. If no YJ is used then an anodized aluminum locking ring which stands on top of the hotend mounting flange is included along with 3 M3 8mm screws for securing it in place.
The locking ring sits atop the hotend mount flange to secure it.
The locking ring sits atop the hotend mount flange to secure it.
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A Yellowjacket board (http://www.themakerhive.com/shop/viewit ... oductid=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) may be attached with the provided nylon screws so all versions of the Yellowjacket board with work with this mount.
The Yellowjacket holds the Hotend flange in the mounting recess with 3 nylon screws.
The Yellowjacket holds the Hotend flange in the mounting recess with 3 nylon screws.
All the contacts on the Yellowjacket board are given clearance and nylons screws prevent any short circuits between the board and the mount.
All the contacts on the Yellowjacket board are given clearance and nylons screws prevent any short circuits between the board and the mount.
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Each kit will include the following: 1 anodized aluminum E3D /J head mount, 3 custom length carbon fiber spacers with anodized aluminum end caps, 3 m3 8mm screws for mounting the mount to the top of the spacers, 3 M3 12mm flat screws for mounting the assembly to the effector plate, 1 anodized aluminum lock ring, 3 M3 8mm lock ring screws. 3 nylon M3 10mm screws will be included if requested for mounting with a Yellowjacket board. (mounts and lock rings can be anodized in a wide range of colors, custom length spacers can be almost any length.) We are looking to sell the above kit at $35.00 + shipping (flat rate USPS priority mail).
The Yellowjacket board is not included in the kit. 3 Nylon mounting screws are included if requested for a Yellowjacket mount kit.
The Yellowjacket board is not included in the kit. 3 Nylon mounting screws are included if requested for a Yellowjacket mount kit.

I am still working to get back logged orders and a few samples out before I can start taking in new orders. I will contact everyone who has asked about buying a mount shortly when I have them in stock and ready for anodizing in your choice of colors.
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waiting with baited breath... can I prepay :)
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Please, travelphotog, indicate on this thread when you are ready to accept new orders. I will be buying 3.
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Eaglezsoar wrote:Please, travelphotog, indicate on this thread when you are ready to accept new orders. I will be buying 3.

I still owe you the one I promised Eagle. I have not forgotten that. I will be mixing up some maroon this week and should have one out to door heading your way shortly. I have been holding off sending yours as we were doing so many changes to the design. I will be in touch once I get the maroon mixed up.
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