Bed calibration out of wack.. Looking for a bit of advice
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:49 pm
So I am a bit at my wits end here guys. I am having an issue which I have worked to solve for about a week or so and i have come up empty each time. So here is the deal. Since I build my Max V2 it has printed like a champ and never had any major issues overall. I even moved it across the country in a giant tank of a crate standing upright and it arrived perfectly, I just gave it a fast calibration and it start printing like a champ right away after the move. All was perfect in my 3D printing world until... I was asked by one of the guys at the makerspace to bring the printer down to a local community event for some kids to experience 3D printing in person. Of course I jumped at the chance to share 3D printing with some local kids and they LOVED watching the printer make a Spitfire wing over the course of the afternoon. While at the event the printer worker perfectly and the spitfire wing was a great sample print as it uses almost the entire bed size and the delta arms were moving all over the place and the kids loved it.
So here now is the rub.. I brought the printer home (placed it on a few blankets laid down and secured it in with a few towels on the sides and drove the SUV nice and SLOW there and back on smooth roads) and put it back in my office. Not a single issue in transport and I was by the printer's side the entire day and nothing hit or messed with it at the event. But right away I noticed an issue when I did my next print. At 12 and 6 the head seems to "dive" down super close to the bed. at around the 3 and 9 areas it seems to raise up. the further out on the bed the worse this gets.. Ok no matter, a fast calibration should fix this I thought.. Sure enough it was a bit off and I got it all dialed back in with my dial indicator and thought that would be that.. Nope... It is dead calibrated but still has the same issue in the same spots... Rechecked the calibration and it was spot on... Issue still there.. OK... Center still printed ok and I had some small stuff the kid next door wanted printed, so I threw a few prints on the plate and they did well enough in the center area. Next day go to print and bed heater is not working.. Hmm ok... Check that issue out and find the 12V in on the RAMBO cooked off and was melting.. OK... Did a 24V conversion with Meanwell 500W power supply and a Crydom SSR following Nightwatchman's posts.. Just removed the screws to the top plate below the bed and raised it up. Installed everything it worked like a charm the first time i fired it up. OK...
Put everything back together and recalbraite thinking of COURSE now the issue from before will be gone, I just took the printer half apart right? Nope... Not a chance... Still same issue in same spots... OK.... Time to get drastic I guess... Went around and loosened all the upright screws on the top and bottom supports.. Check that everything is reseated and all looked fine.. OK tighten it all back up, re-calibrate and bam.. Same issue, same spots... Grrr Time to consult the experts and find out what silly, right in my face issue I have overlooked to cause this.
I think what is really driving me mad is not just the issue, but this is the last thing holding up our release of the aluminum and carbon fiber mounts... I need the printer working 100% (as it always has) to print the mailing boxes for the mounts so i can ship out the mounts. We are releasing the web link tonight for early orders for folks who gave so much ffedback and such early on and the main site will go up Friday for publis sales.. But I need the mailing boxes to fill orders so I have to get this issue sorted out, not to mention i have other paid 3D prints in the wings waiting.. I can not keep up with plane orders right now as it is!
So here is a shot of a calibration ring I made and use to check the bed. I am open to any ideas.. I'm sort of at a loss right not short of flashing the Max and start over dead from scratch which I would like to avoid unless someone feels that is my only choice. I know that someone will know the fix here. it just escapes me right now. My thought was I bumped something in transporting the printer to the event.. But after doing the 24V conversation (which I LOVE and recommend to anyone doing lots of prints!) and checking the towers.. I am sort of at a loss. Thanks for all the help in advance guys. Above all it is the community around the Max that helps to make it by far one of the best DIY 3D printers.
So here now is the rub.. I brought the printer home (placed it on a few blankets laid down and secured it in with a few towels on the sides and drove the SUV nice and SLOW there and back on smooth roads) and put it back in my office. Not a single issue in transport and I was by the printer's side the entire day and nothing hit or messed with it at the event. But right away I noticed an issue when I did my next print. At 12 and 6 the head seems to "dive" down super close to the bed. at around the 3 and 9 areas it seems to raise up. the further out on the bed the worse this gets.. Ok no matter, a fast calibration should fix this I thought.. Sure enough it was a bit off and I got it all dialed back in with my dial indicator and thought that would be that.. Nope... It is dead calibrated but still has the same issue in the same spots... Rechecked the calibration and it was spot on... Issue still there.. OK... Center still printed ok and I had some small stuff the kid next door wanted printed, so I threw a few prints on the plate and they did well enough in the center area. Next day go to print and bed heater is not working.. Hmm ok... Check that issue out and find the 12V in on the RAMBO cooked off and was melting.. OK... Did a 24V conversion with Meanwell 500W power supply and a Crydom SSR following Nightwatchman's posts.. Just removed the screws to the top plate below the bed and raised it up. Installed everything it worked like a charm the first time i fired it up. OK...
Put everything back together and recalbraite thinking of COURSE now the issue from before will be gone, I just took the printer half apart right? Nope... Not a chance... Still same issue in same spots... OK.... Time to get drastic I guess... Went around and loosened all the upright screws on the top and bottom supports.. Check that everything is reseated and all looked fine.. OK tighten it all back up, re-calibrate and bam.. Same issue, same spots... Grrr Time to consult the experts and find out what silly, right in my face issue I have overlooked to cause this.
I think what is really driving me mad is not just the issue, but this is the last thing holding up our release of the aluminum and carbon fiber mounts... I need the printer working 100% (as it always has) to print the mailing boxes for the mounts so i can ship out the mounts. We are releasing the web link tonight for early orders for folks who gave so much ffedback and such early on and the main site will go up Friday for publis sales.. But I need the mailing boxes to fill orders so I have to get this issue sorted out, not to mention i have other paid 3D prints in the wings waiting.. I can not keep up with plane orders right now as it is!
So here is a shot of a calibration ring I made and use to check the bed. I am open to any ideas.. I'm sort of at a loss right not short of flashing the Max and start over dead from scratch which I would like to avoid unless someone feels that is my only choice. I know that someone will know the fix here. it just escapes me right now. My thought was I bumped something in transporting the printer to the event.. But after doing the 24V conversation (which I LOVE and recommend to anyone doing lots of prints!) and checking the towers.. I am sort of at a loss. Thanks for all the help in advance guys. Above all it is the community around the Max that helps to make it by far one of the best DIY 3D printers.