Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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mandalarose
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Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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Hi all, I've decided that I want to try the E3Dv6 hotend on my Rostock v3. I have ordered the parts, and printed the following files from Thingiverse.

www.thingiverse.com/thing:2098268

I really like the accelerometer probe, and I am getting great first layer heights, but the spiderwebs have been a bit of a challenge. Several people have suggested the the e3dv6 may be a good choice to eliminate those from their own personal experience using it on the rostock v3.

That being said, I really don't want to disassemble my he280 hotend. I'd rather order the parts necessary to build up the hotend around the e3dv6. However, therein lies my problem. I get the general gist of how to do the conversion, but I'm a little unclear which parts stay and which parts go, as I didn't build the machine myself, and rather ordered a prebuilt kit.

Has anyone used this particular thingiverse conversion and done a photo blog or video install of the process? Or can anyone help me in figuring out what spare parts to order from seemecnc so that I can just unplug the whip, and undo the ball links and then swap in my experimental e3dv6 hotend assembly?

So far, this list of what I can identify that I need to order is the following:
qty#1 - https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... ostock-max
qty#3 - https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... all-joints
qty#1 - https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... ard-rev-5c

Not sure if I need:
https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... e-98c-208f
https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... -lead-wire
(Not sure if I need the heater cartridge, because I got one with the e3dv6, but it has longer leads attached to it)

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out and add to my list.

Wade
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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you can use the effector platform with the barbells and the fans. you will need to remove the HE280's print head and replace with the E3Dv6 you will also need hotend mount, and accelerometer board standoff you will need to desolder the board and swap in the new heater cartridge for the E3Dv6 and the Thermistor. You will used the cooling fan and shroud for the E3Dv6

The Hotend mount that you printed is all the parts you need other than the barbells you linked and the accelerometer board. You can transfer the parts fans, or use a Berdair or use this effector plate with three new fans http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1284511


Here is mine with a LED ring on the bottom
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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Here's a pic of everything I got with the e3dv6.
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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I also have these installed on the fans. I had to scale X & Y up by 2% in order to get them to fit tho as printed at the size of the STL wasn't letting them fit on the fans.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2111326

They seem to be doing a good job, my bed temp doesn't drop anymore with the fans blowing on them like they did, but I have noticed that the nozzle temp is reporting about 4-5C lower temps with these installed. Prints seem to be coming out really good tho.

Wade
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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I just finished my conversion, making a sole/separate hotend so that I could revert as you speak to.

Here's the complete build and BOM: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2122793

The only thing I couldn't source was the PCB cover. I wound up printing one off of the github in Form 2 Clear resin.

The only real "gotcha" was including enough slack in the lines so that they would compress into place. I added "S" bends leading into the board, and wired the fans in from the bottom (omit the molex jack and cut the connectors). I zip tied everything to the front 2 supports and it came out really clean.

I have about 50 hours against this hotend and it works better than my V2 E3D mounts in terms of cooling.
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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djkirkendall wrote:I just finished my conversion, making a sole/separate hotend so that I could revert as you speak to.

Here's the complete build and BOM: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2122793

The only thing I couldn't source was the PCB cover. I wound up printing one off of the github in Form 2 Clear resin.

The only real "gotcha" was including enough slack in the lines so that they would compress into place. I added "S" bends leading into the board, and wired the fans in from the bottom (omit the molex jack and cut the connectors). I zip tied everything to the front 2 supports and it came out really clean.

I have about 50 hours against this hotend and it works better than my V2 E3D mounts in terms of cooling.

Thanks for the link. I do like the fans I am currently using, as well as their layout, so I'll probably keep the fan mounts. From your BOM, and comparing it to my list of stuff to order, it looks like the only thing I am missing is the fans, and the cover to the PCB, which I see linked in your article. Does that look right to you as well?

Thanks again!
Wade
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Re: Trying a E3DV6 extruder

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Hey Wade,

I think you're set, as long as you buy the complete E3D bowden kit: http://e3d-online.com/E3D-v6/Full-Kit/v ... sal-Bowden

The integrated box fans with the effector are the best I've used to date. I tried the stock fans with redirecting shrouds with mixed results. I found borderline overhangs I could normally get away with on my V2s curled up on the V3 with the stock hotend and shrouds.

With the E3D and integrated effector the V3 outperforms my V2s now. It's hard for me to say which was the largest contributing factor as I made the exchange all at once.

The only drawback I see to the integrated effector is the proximity to the heating block requires a more temp-tolerant material like nylon, or in my case, carbon-filled nylon.

All of this is still fresh in my head so if you run into any hangups I'd be happy to help.
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