Howdy all,
New to 3D printers, thought I'd start with the Rostock MAX, and look forward to seeing what I can do with it.
Howdy all
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We look forward to you posting your progress!
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Say hello to Walternate for me. 
- dan
- dan
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Welcome!
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LOVE IT......dbarrans wrote:Say hello to Walternate for me.
- dan
I don't know how many people will get the reference..... I will really miss that show!!!
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It was a good show, but better to end on a high. Too often shows get dragged out.
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Your gonna like your Rostock.
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I almost gave up on the show very early on because it had almost nothing to do with science. Then I realized that like most good SF, it was more about the people, not the science, and I stuck with it and enjoyed it. I still wouldn't say it was really good SF, but it was entertaining.
- dan
- dan
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Forgot to ask... is there any other Australians here? If so where abouts are you from? Myself I'm in sunny Victoria.
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The rostock is my first printer also! Welcome to the forums.
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Hi All-
New to the 3D Printer scene, and would like to share my thoughts:
MY BACKGROUND
As a point of reference, I have engineering, science, and management degrees, and have been in "the field" for over 25 years.
I believe in building things to last (= overbuliding). The bulk of my experience is in hardware vs software. Since I do prototype work, I believe this kit build was well within my wheelhouse.
REASONS FOR PURCHASING 3D PRINTER
I need to reduce the cost of iterative machining for our company and need a large build envelope (Rostock MAX specifically). I cannot spend an infinite amount of time "tweaking" with any tool, but rather "close enough is good enough". Learning to build a kit allows me to become more intimate with its operation so when (not if) things go wrong, I can ostensibly, fix it.
REVIEW OF BUILD AND COMPANY
I received the kit in April, and noticed a few things:
1. The power supply had dents in it (which was found to be cosmetic and worked fine);
2. Missing build plate (we ended up buying a piece of tempered glass for $30);
3. Hardware called out in the manual did not match that which was supplied (supplied my own where needed);
4. "Critical fit" parts did not fit properly (prepared for assembly);
5. Delta arm/hot end/extruder all WAY more complex and time consuming than need be (prepared for assembly)
As for the company, SeeMeCNC has been OUTSTANDING. The secret to the success of any company is how it handles its customers, and as a young startup, if SeeMeCNC continues to involve and respond to its customers, they will not only survive, but thrive.
SUGGESTIONS
In order to improve the machine and build process, I suggest the following:
- Critical parts need to be well made when supplied- if something is critical, don't leave it up to each builder to prepare;
- Kit the kit- segregating the overall build into sub-assemblies- both in terms of packaging and in instruction will make the assembly process alot more efficient (along with ease of updating components and manual as per marketplace evolution);
- Create hard points- Pinning parts or creating ways in which a builder cannot get into trouble, by permanently affixing alignment sub-assemblies would reduce frustration;
- Start providing Build or Lot numbers to identify machine evolutions and tie into owners manual and software efforts;
- Create a more cohesive owners manual effort. One which includes more pictures and diagrams for ease of assmebly. Absolutely no offense to geneb- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS!!- if it wasn't for you, we'd have nothing;
- Downloadable code for test and evaluation- Assuming the machine, in any builder's hands, should operate at a base level of consistent functionality, it would be nice to run a test process which checks all critical functions;
- Create a matchmaking section in the Forums for those who need physical "on-site" assistance with those who have successfully built a machine.
STATUS
- I replaced the power supply because getting the hot end to 255 and Onyx heated bed to 100 was just out of reach (purchased a 750 W version for $40 and get to both target temperatures within 10 minutes);
- There was no way to make the top plate perpendicular with the aluminum rails as supplied with the screw(s) that attached them to the top plate. Using a custom solution, everything is now square, level, plumbed, and at the same height;
- I am in a calibration loop trying to get all things aligned heated bed leveling wise- changing the PRINTER_RADIUS setting provides little if no relief and the iterative process is troublesome.
MUSINGS
- Very excited about the technology (some of the parts made and innovations made to the machine are nothing short of inspirational) and community;
- I get a kick out of reading people who claim to have built the machine in 8 hours, when it takes a couple hours just to remove the tape covering the parts;
- The video(s) of a specific disgruntled customer (referenced numerous places on the web and this forum) has generated interesting response. Although I agree with alot of his points, his tone and the methods by which he made his points were completely out of line. SeeMeCNC's response was way beyond the call of duty and a perfect example of what I mentioned above in the Review of Build and Company section.
We are all in this together!
Scott
New to the 3D Printer scene, and would like to share my thoughts:
MY BACKGROUND
As a point of reference, I have engineering, science, and management degrees, and have been in "the field" for over 25 years.
I believe in building things to last (= overbuliding). The bulk of my experience is in hardware vs software. Since I do prototype work, I believe this kit build was well within my wheelhouse.
REASONS FOR PURCHASING 3D PRINTER
I need to reduce the cost of iterative machining for our company and need a large build envelope (Rostock MAX specifically). I cannot spend an infinite amount of time "tweaking" with any tool, but rather "close enough is good enough". Learning to build a kit allows me to become more intimate with its operation so when (not if) things go wrong, I can ostensibly, fix it.
REVIEW OF BUILD AND COMPANY
I received the kit in April, and noticed a few things:
1. The power supply had dents in it (which was found to be cosmetic and worked fine);
2. Missing build plate (we ended up buying a piece of tempered glass for $30);
3. Hardware called out in the manual did not match that which was supplied (supplied my own where needed);
4. "Critical fit" parts did not fit properly (prepared for assembly);
5. Delta arm/hot end/extruder all WAY more complex and time consuming than need be (prepared for assembly)
As for the company, SeeMeCNC has been OUTSTANDING. The secret to the success of any company is how it handles its customers, and as a young startup, if SeeMeCNC continues to involve and respond to its customers, they will not only survive, but thrive.
SUGGESTIONS
In order to improve the machine and build process, I suggest the following:
- Critical parts need to be well made when supplied- if something is critical, don't leave it up to each builder to prepare;
- Kit the kit- segregating the overall build into sub-assemblies- both in terms of packaging and in instruction will make the assembly process alot more efficient (along with ease of updating components and manual as per marketplace evolution);
- Create hard points- Pinning parts or creating ways in which a builder cannot get into trouble, by permanently affixing alignment sub-assemblies would reduce frustration;
- Start providing Build or Lot numbers to identify machine evolutions and tie into owners manual and software efforts;
- Create a more cohesive owners manual effort. One which includes more pictures and diagrams for ease of assmebly. Absolutely no offense to geneb- THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS!!- if it wasn't for you, we'd have nothing;
- Downloadable code for test and evaluation- Assuming the machine, in any builder's hands, should operate at a base level of consistent functionality, it would be nice to run a test process which checks all critical functions;
- Create a matchmaking section in the Forums for those who need physical "on-site" assistance with those who have successfully built a machine.
STATUS
- I replaced the power supply because getting the hot end to 255 and Onyx heated bed to 100 was just out of reach (purchased a 750 W version for $40 and get to both target temperatures within 10 minutes);
- There was no way to make the top plate perpendicular with the aluminum rails as supplied with the screw(s) that attached them to the top plate. Using a custom solution, everything is now square, level, plumbed, and at the same height;
- I am in a calibration loop trying to get all things aligned heated bed leveling wise- changing the PRINTER_RADIUS setting provides little if no relief and the iterative process is troublesome.
MUSINGS
- Very excited about the technology (some of the parts made and innovations made to the machine are nothing short of inspirational) and community;
- I get a kick out of reading people who claim to have built the machine in 8 hours, when it takes a couple hours just to remove the tape covering the parts;
- The video(s) of a specific disgruntled customer (referenced numerous places on the web and this forum) has generated interesting response. Although I agree with alot of his points, his tone and the methods by which he made his points were completely out of line. SeeMeCNC's response was way beyond the call of duty and a perfect example of what I mentioned above in the Review of Build and Company section.
We are all in this together!
Scott
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All good points, Scott.
The fun thing about being on the bleeding edge is that "professionals" never get there first. It's precisely because Steve & Co. don't have the manpower, procedures, quality control, or experience to create a user-friendly, no surprises package that they got the first $1,000 large format delta printer kit to market.
The frustrating thing about being on the bleeding edge is exactly the same. (-:
SeeMeCNC is also improving their product at a good clip. They aren't (that we can see) improving their procedures at the same rate. As sales increase, they'll be forced to.
The fun thing about being on the bleeding edge is that "professionals" never get there first. It's precisely because Steve & Co. don't have the manpower, procedures, quality control, or experience to create a user-friendly, no surprises package that they got the first $1,000 large format delta printer kit to market.
The frustrating thing about being on the bleeding edge is exactly the same. (-:
SeeMeCNC is also improving their product at a good clip. They aren't (that we can see) improving their procedures at the same rate. As sales increase, they'll be forced to.