LCD Smart Controller "Anti Ooze" & Other Settings

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LCD Smart Controller "Anti Ooze" & Other Settings

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Sorry if I have overlooked a post that deals with such things. I find I continue to discover more options in the LCD Smart Controller ( :) or :( ). One of the options is found at Configuration -> Anti Ooze.

The options for this Anti Ooze item seem pretty straightforward, but it occurred to me that I already set similar items in my slicer (I tend to use KISSlicer). So I have left this menu item turned off.

I understand that the LCD Smart Controller is a "universal fit" board and is meant to be adapted to many 3D printers. And it's options are meant to be helpful in cases where slicers don't include such things (a "slicer backstop" so-to-speak). But, and it's a pretty big but, despite a fair amount of searching I have not found a "User's Manual" for the LCD Smart Controller. So it appears that the user is supposed to "just figure it out." Hmmmm...

Have I missed a link somewhere?

Thanks for the input!

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Bill Havins wrote:Sorry if I have overlooked a post that deals with such things. I find I continue to discover more options in the LCD Smart Controller ( :) or :( ). One of the options is found at Configuration -> Anti Ooze.

The options for this Anti Ooze item seem pretty straightforward, but it occurred to me that I already set similar items in my slicer (I tend to use KISSlicer). So I have left this menu item turned off.

I understand that the LCD Smart Controller is a "universal fit" board and is meant to be adapted to many 3D printers. And it's options are meant to be helpful in cases where slicers don't include such things (a "slicer backstop" so-to-speak). But, and it's a pretty big but, despite a fair amount of searching I have not found a "User's Manual" for the LCD Smart Controller. So it appears that the user is supposed to "just figure it out." Hmmmm...

Have I missed a link somewhere?

Thanks for the input!

Bill
I have often wondered about that myself.
You would think that someone would have created a "flow chart" or something similar to show the menu from the LCD Smart Controller, the sub-menus
and what they do. Like you I have searched for this and have found nothing. I guess it's tweak the knob and see what gets hard. (or is it soft?)
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You should disable anti ooze in repetier and use the one in the slicer. You certainly shouldn't use both.

The idea was that the firmware can do things the slicer can't, specifically it can move and retract/prime simultaneously, however in practice it isn't really valuable, and the implementation has always been kind of hokey. I believe it's been removed in the 0.9.x builds.
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Keep in mind the LCD controller has no logic of its own, the whole menu system is determined by the firmware, marlin has a way different interface compared to Repetier as I've noticed. The LCD controller is essentially just a generic LCD screen with a piezo buzzer, click encoder, and reset button. In fact , if you wanted to, you could change the whole interface of the controller by editing the Repetier firmware code that controls it.
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After I posted my original question I went into the Repetier firmware (the .83 version modified by SeeMeCNC). There is quite a narrative about the "Anti Ooze" menu item in the Configuration.h file.

Earlier I was updating my firmware (from .81 I think) so I could load files to the SD card independent of the Rostock MAX. When I ran a test print I discovered that my regular method of priming the extruder did not work well. The new settings in the Configuration.h file limit the preheat temperature of the extruder to 230°. Oops!

I normally run my first layer at 240°. When printing from the SD card I have tended to manually set the bed to preheat to 80° and the extruder to 240°. Once both make it to temperature, I extrude about 25mm of filament and then immediately start the print file. By doing that the extruder is fully primed and there is no "gap" in the first part of the first layer.

I'll go back into Configuration.h and change the appropriate line of code; I haven't looked but I don't think it is in the EEPROM configuration file in Repetier Host.

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// ###############################################################################
// ##                         Values for menu settings                          ##
// ###############################################################################

// Values used for preheat
#define UI_SET_PRESET_HEATED_BED_TEMP_PLA 60
#define UI_SET_PRESET_EXTRUDER_TEMP_PLA   150
#define UI_SET_PRESET_HEATED_BED_TEMP_ABS 90
#define UI_SET_PRESET_EXTRUDER_TEMP_ABS   175
// Extreme values 
#define UI_SET_MIN_HEATED_BED_TEMP  50
#define UI_SET_MAX_HEATED_BED_TEMP 100
#define UI_SET_MIN_EXTRUDER_TEMP   60
#define UI_SET_MAX_EXTRUDER_TEMP   230
#define UI_SET_EXTRUDER_FEEDRATE 2 // mm/sec
#define UI_SET_EXTRUDER_RETRACT_DISTANCE 3 // mm
As is indicated above, the LCD Smart Controller "ain't independently smart."

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Eaglezsoar wrote: I have often wondered about that myself.
You would think that someone would have created a "flow chart" or something similar to show the menu from the LCD Smart Controller, the sub-menus
and what they do. Like you I have searched for this and have found nothing. I guess it's tweak the knob and see what gets hard. (or is it soft?)
I've started to put together a Wiki page on the LCD menu structure here: http://wiki.seemecnc.com/LCD_Menu#LCD_Menu

I'm going to start reading through the code to make sure I understand what all the less-obvious options do and I'll update the page as I go along until it's done. At that time, I can link it in to the main Rostock pages.

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Toyguy wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote: I have often wondered about that myself.
You would think that someone would have created a "flow chart" or something similar to show the menu from the LCD Smart Controller, the sub-menus
and what they do. Like you I have searched for this and have found nothing. I guess it's tweak the knob and see what gets hard. (or is it soft?)
I've started to put together a Wiki page on the LCD menu structure here: http://wiki.seemecnc.com/LCD_Menu#LCD_Menu

I'm going to start reading through the code to make sure I understand what all the less-obvious options do and I'll update the page as I go along until it's done. At that time, I can link it in to the main Rostock pages.

Dave
Thank you for doing the LCD menu, it is sorely needed and appreciated.
I can reach your page with the link you gave but I have a question on Wiki usage.
How do I reach your page from the main page of the Wiki? I could not seem to find it from the main page.
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You won't be able to hit it from the main page yet because I haven't tied it into the main page. I'll do so once it's complete.
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