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Just wear a high brightness IR hat. It will overpower the camera and you cannot make out who you are. Could also be good to put those on the dash of your car so photo cops cease to work.
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snoman002 wrote: On the flip side, tracking will become so easy with these devices that nobody will remember how to do it the 'old' way, and hiding will require little more than giving up credit cards and cell phones.
And staying out of the field of view of anyone wearing google glass. They run image processing software (facial recognition included) and send thumbnail images to federal databases for comparison, of course those pictures of your face are tagged with the GPS coords of where the glasshole was at the time the image was recorded.

I think you mean they 'could' run those things.
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Generic Default wrote: And staying out of the field of view of anyone wearing google glass. They run image processing software (facial recognition included) and send thumbnail images to federal databases for comparison, of course those pictures of your face are tagged with the GPS coords of where the glasshole was at the time the image was recorded.
To hell with that, I'm walking around with a portable EMP generator around my neck from now on!

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EMP, nice!
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Demolishun wrote:EMP, nice!
When I was in high school, I bought a small hobby kit whose sole purpose was to disrupt TV broadcasts with a radius of perhaps a dozen feet or so. On one occasion I brought it to class and used it to disrupt a video that was being played. Only for a few seconds, you understand, to make myself and my friends laugh. All it did was transmit noise on the VHF frequencies. Such devices have been invented by various people to disrupt cell phones around them, as with people who (for some reason) can't stand someone having a cell phone conversation where they can hear it. The FCC takes a stern view of any such devices, and there are good reasons to curtail people from disrupting each others' calls (for example, when I dial 911 on the freeway to narc on obviously drunk drivers.) However, I wouldn't be surprised if some people take the law into their own hands and build jammers in response to Glassholes and others.
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Glassholes?

Why is it worse to have Google glass than it is to have a Bluetooth headset in while staring at your phone?
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The "glassholes" moniker is an extension of the reactionary social conservatism aimed at cell phone users 15 years ago, when they first came into prominence. At the time it was not unheard of for cell phone users to have their phones knocked out of their hands and smashed. (Some people like to hurt you if you dare to do anything they don't... they will say it's in the name of "humor" or "good taste" but it's really about considering one's choices inherently better than everyone else's.)

I use the term to refer to people who walk around recording stuff in public without the permission of the people being recorded. In a few years, electronic eyepieces will be common, and the assaults on Glass users will subside. Down the line, there'll be some new technological thing that bullies will use as an excuse to hurt strangers.
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626Pilot wrote:The "glassholes" moniker is an extension of the reactionary social conservatism aimed at cell phone users 15 years ago, when they first came into prominence. At the time it was not unheard of for cell phone users to have their phones knocked out of their hands and smashed. (Some people like to hurt you if you dare to do anything they don't... they will say it's in the name of "humor" or "good taste" but it's really about considering one's choices inherently better than everyone else's.)

I use the term to refer to people who walk around recording stuff in public without the permission of the people being recorded. In a few years, electronic eyepieces will be common, and the assaults on Glass users will subside. Down the line, there'll be some new technological thing that bullies will use as an excuse to hurt strangers.
It's a public space, they don't need permission. It's no different than someone using a camcorder or cellphone. Also the Glass has such a limited battery I highly doubt people will be recording all the time. It just can't do it. The battery will only last for 30 minutes of continuous recording. I always find the term glasshole kinda douchy.
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626Pilot wrote:The "glassholes" moniker is an extension of the reactionary social conservatism aimed at cell phone users 15 years ago, when they first came into prominence. At the time it was not unheard of for cell phone users to have their phones knocked out of their hands and smashed. (Some people like to hurt you if you dare to do anything they don't... they will say it's in the name of "humor" or "good taste" but it's really about considering one's choices inherently better than everyone else's.)

I use the term to refer to people who walk around recording stuff in public without the permission of the people being recorded. In a few years, electronic eyepieces will be common, and the assaults on Glass users will subside. Down the line, there'll be some new technological thing that bullies will use as an excuse to hurt strangers.
It's a public space, they don't need permission. It's no different than someone using a camcorder or cellphone. Also the Glass has such a limited battery I highly doubt people will be recording all the time. It just can't do it. The battery will only last for 30 minutes of continuous recording. I always find the term glasshole kinda douchy.
I find the people that wear them kinda douchy.
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All this time I thought glasshole was where you pour the beer into...

Hey, your sock has a hole in it... :D
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barry99705 wrote:It's a public space, they don't need permission.
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barry99705 wrote:It's a public space, they don't need permission.
What you can isn't always what you ought.
So you're saying people shouldn't use cell phones, or bluetooth devices in public?
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barry99705 wrote:So you're saying people shouldn't use cell phones, or bluetooth devices in public?
I have no idea how you could infer that to be my meaning. You know that people don't generally want to have their every public move archived forever on the internet. You know that if someone was getting in your face with a camera and refusing to turn it off, responding "I can if I feel like it" when you ask them to stop, you would take exception. Or are you from some curious species that places no value on being left alone by others?
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barry99705 wrote:So you're saying people shouldn't use cell phones, or bluetooth devices in public?
I have no idea how you could infer that to be my meaning. You know that people don't generally want to have their every public move archived forever on the internet. You know that if someone was getting in your face with a camera and refusing to turn it off, responding "I can if I feel like it" when you ask them to stop, you would take exception. Or are you from some curious species that places no value on being left alone by others?
No, I actually bought the house we live in because it's the only house on the street, and will only ever be the only house on the street. The closest neighbor I have is almost 300 yards away with a river between us. I just don't understand how you think glass users are recording 24/7. They're no different than a cell phone, and at least with the glasses you know they're filming you because they're looking directly at you. I could film you with my phone while it's still on my hip and you'd never know it. At a much higher resolution. I don't even have to be facing you. I just don't understand the unsupported fear and paranoia these things bring out in people. Honestly, have you ever even seen one of these things in real life yet? Did someone film you scratching your balls in public or something??? I've seen an order of magnitude more cameras mounted to motorcycle helmets than google glasses, I know 6 or 7 people with the glasses.

I think I'm going to stop now. I spent my early years in south Georgia and have issues with prejudice of any sort. It just bothers me that everybody gets all freaked out by these things and there's only a couple thousand in the wild so far.
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barry99705 wrote:So you're saying people shouldn't use cell phones, or bluetooth devices in public?
I have no idea how you could infer that to be my meaning. You know that people don't generally want to have their every public move archived forever on the internet. You know that if someone was getting in your face with a camera and refusing to turn it off, responding "I can if I feel like it" when you ask them to stop, you would take exception. Or are you from some curious species that places no value on being left alone by others?
Are you saying a guy recording a few minutes of his day, or sending a video to his girlfriend, or just showing his mom the sights around him is the same as a random person pulling paparazzi on Joe blow eating a cheeseburger? Or should I not be able to record my daughter eating an ice cream cone because some random person might walk into the scene?

At what point does using a video camera, being strapped to you glasses, or held in your hand, become a person shoving a camera in your face and refusing to turn it off? Or that because someone is recording in public means that they picked a random person and are now chronicling that persons every move.

Public is public, if I wanted to record my kid, mother, spouse, etc having a good day then I have every right and reasonable expectation to do so. If 6ou don't want others to see your actions then don't do them in public.
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I notice its only showing the last 8 months of gps tracking for me. Since I've used Google phones back to at least 2009, i wonder if it only keeps it for 8 months. Also, I noticed that some of the GPS locations show me out of state when I havent been at all (who wants to go to Nevada??). So it's not completely accurate, AND it does have a delete function so thats mighty nice of them.

Im going put my phone on "Airplane" mode for most of the day and see what it shows. GREAT find, by the way. I NEVER knew about this feature google has. All I need to do now is figured out my wife's google account.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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barry99705 wrote:I just don't understand how you think glass users are recording 24/7.
Me neither, because I never did think that, nor say anything to indicate that I did.
They're no different than a cell phone, and at least with the glasses you know they're filming you because they're looking directly at you. I could film you with my phone while it's still on my hip and you'd never know it. At a much higher resolution. I don't even have to be facing you. I just don't understand the unsupported fear and paranoia these things bring out in people.
"Glassholes" is a term I apply specifically to people using Glass in a way that ignores other peoples' reasonable expectation not to be recorded if they ask not to be. I have recorded stuff in the past with a camcorder, and one of my friends asked not to be in the frame. I agreed. I consider the state of mind necessary to record my friend anyway, against his wishes, and I see it as puerile and disrespectful. Allowed under the law, yes, but incredibly rude.
snoman002 wrote:Or should I not be able to record my daughter eating an ice cream cone because some random person might walk into the scene? [...] If 6ou don't want others to see your actions then don't do them in public.
You have a daughter, and you can't see the utility in being able to object to someone filming her against your wishes?
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There will inevitably be a lot of abuse of the camera and microphone on the glasses by users. That will be annoying to me and everybody else who doesn't like being recorded every time they step out of their home. The cell phones that people use today can record just like the glasses, and I try not to be a reactionary by saying its all bad.

But the whole NSA scandal last year exposed some of the technical details of surveillance, and people should be aware now that nearly all wireless devices with embedded cameras and microphones can (and will) be monitored at any given time. This includes your cell phone camera and the webcam on your laptop. They used to come with little rubber lens covers from the manufacturer for privacy, but in the early 2000's the government pushed the manufacturers to remove those privacy features. You never know when one is recording, which is why security experts consistently put tape or stickers over their laptop webcams.

Of course webcam videos aren't worth the money of data storage to the government unless they know who is in the videos, which is why they've developed extensive facial recognition programs. If you have a photo ID (driver's license, ect.) then you're already in the system. The leaks last year showed that the NSA regularly processes as much data from consumer electronics as they have the capacity for. Google glass takes this to the next step by having a camera that sees exactly what you see when you wear it. The worst case scenario for privacy and civil rights is that all cameras are always recording and the data is always being processed for identity recognition. This is where we we be within four years, if we aren't there already.


If Google glass had a rubber lens cover on it, I wouldn't care about this issue at all.
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