Benefits of E3D V6 ??? Dual Extruders?

[dunginhawk]

So as some of you know ive been pretty active, being a new member with a new Rostock... (Mines name is Rostock N Roll)

Im still having major issues printing bronze with the stock extruder, but i had issues printing anything else with the printed extruder (bronze printed only OK w/ that).

Is the E3d V6 upgrade worth it? Obviously right now im running stock...
Besides the obvious higher temps you can do (and thus the added filaments) is there other benefits i can expect from it???

Dual extruders - is that a complicated process? To those that have that done, are you happy you did it? Im one of those people that like to upgrade my stuff to the max...

I dont have dampers, but I do have mine in a back room of my basement where noise isnt an issue.


Just looking for fun stuff to do with it

thanks

[add1ct3dd]

It depends what material you print with, all-metal extruders are generally less favoured if you are printing PLA as you get thermal bridging, otherwise it's amazing for ABS.

[dunginhawk]

Its strange... I read so many places where people print with PLA all the time, mostly in fact... I seem to be printing most of my stuff with ABS though... Not all but most..
It can be smoothed with acetone, its got a touch of flex to it...

So you are saying if i went with an E3DV6 that i would want to use the current stock hotend if i wanted to do PLA?

So what are some filaments that the E3Dv6 woudl allow me to print that stock cant? Nylon is one i think... carbon fiber?

Just trying to get a feel for the benefits/drawbacks... etc

[Polygonhell]

Different extruders behave differently with different materials. Not just the all metal ones.

The primary advantage of the all metal designs is they can be run at higher temperatures, which opens up nylons, polycarbonate and a few other esoteric materials. There were issues with earlier all metal hotends and PLA, if you got a good one they were fine, if you didn't it could be damn frustrating.
Modern hotends have the PTFE sleeve because there were issues printing PLA without it, though the V6 runs it's PTFE tube all the way to the top of the heat break, so it might be better, I haven't tried one.

I like the original JHead from hotends.com for PLA.

The reason PLA is so commonly used, is it doesn't warp as badly as most other plastics, and seems to have less downsides than plastics like PET Which look good on paper, but IME prove to be more hassle to work with in practice.

As to duel extruders, it's a lot of messing around, you can find numerous discussions here, including pictures of mine and other peoples prints, my current feeling is designs like the E3D cyclops, or the y adapter someone posted here are the way to go. They remove almost all of the he major issues in calibration, with the disadvantage that printing with materials with different temperatures becomes an issue.

[626Pilot]

I just ordered the E3D "legends pack" (Cyclops + Chimera) from Filastruder. I already have an E3D v6 and I can tell you it's worth it to get one. I had to tear down my SeeMe hot end a lot and clean gunk off the PTFE liners. I find E3Ds a lot easier to run. I only have to tear them down if some grit in the filament winds up clogging the nozzle.

E3D v6 is the best of them all, and the Cyclops and Chimera use the same setup, so I would expect them to run quite well.

The only thing is that the temperature range is different. If you were printing PLA at 190 before, you might be printing it at 220-230 now. The hot ends have a lot less thermal mass, so they have to run hotter to keep the melt chamber at the correct temperature. Fortunately, the shortness of the melt chamber makes the hot end less prone to oozing.

[dunginhawk]

thank you guys... i havent seen a lot of info on how to actually mount it, etc... is there a decent guide somewhere?
although im pretty technical i definately needed the directions, step by step for building my Rostock N Roll
thanks

[Eaglezsoar]

thank you guys... i havent seen a lot of info on how to actually mount it, etc... is there a decent guide somewhere?
although im pretty technical i definately needed the directions, step by step for building my Rostock N Roll
thanks

If you go into your browser and type in site:forum.seemecnc.com e3d v6 mounting
it will find every occurrence of e3d v6 mounting.
I would also search Thingiverse for E3D V6 mounting.
That should give you a lot of material about what to use for the mounting.

[626Pilot]

I have a link in my sig to an E3D mount that I made last year. There are other Rostock MAX accessories there too.