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Funny software/firmware things going on

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Ok, so here's where I'm at:

After the crash described over here
http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7474

I've been trying different things. It seems printing from SD card causes the machine to do odd things like repeatedly trying to home one axis. I have not been able to complete a print from SD.

Slicer3 looked good in the layer by layer view but set the temperature to zero and then waited for it to heat up. :(

MatterSlicer gets hung up on layer 213, just hangs generating g-code for a preview or export.

Cura is printing now, I notice it things triangles are squares. Maybe that's the only infill it knows how to do?

Also, Slizer3 and Cura have VERY funny layer views. I don't see an entire layer as printed, I only see a partial layer. Put them all together and it seems to work, but my model has thousands of these "layers", some are even blank.
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I have those problems also when using mattercontol, so I keep going back to Repetier.
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I see a lot of the same things. I've always - always - had trouble with slic3r, and I think the last time I tried to use it from MatterControl I saw the same behavior. Refused to heat up the hotend. Probably fixable by changing the "start gcode" but IMO slic3r is not worth the hassle, so I never bothered.

Cura doesn't have a triangle infill option last I checked. That's one reason I like MatterSlice. Triangles ftw. :)

I've also seen the same thing regarding the "thousands of layers." I don't know why it does that but it doesn't seem to affect the print, so for now I'd write it off as a cosmetic bug that will probably get fixed sooner or later; after all, all this software is still under active development.

I've never had MatterSlice get hung up on a model though, do you want to post the model here so we can see if other people have the same issue with it?
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If you didn't manually preheat the bed and hotend Matter Control will, when you press print, first heat the bed and then after it gets to temp will heat the head.

Although I have had 2 or three cases where it had just started to print something and I look over and see no flow (after a couple layers) and then notice that the head heat is off [ and maybe bed heat too] It had started fine but turned the heat off. I think I had that happen near the end of a print, too. In one case I hit the pause, hit the preheat buttons again, hit resume, and when it got hot it continued where it left off and the print turned out fine.

I also sometimes see Matter control telling me my model has many times the number of layers that it actually has (in the thousands), and if you step through the layers with the built-in viewer thing you can see that it is counting the peremeter as layer 1, the left foot as layer 2, the right foot as layer 3, and so on. like the layer number goes up by one after every retract operation.
It still prints fine. I can't remember if that is CURA or matterslice that does that, but I think it is only the one slicer.
BenTheRighteous wrote:I see a lot of the same things. I've always - always - had trouble with slic3r, and I think the last time I tried to use it from MatterControl I saw the same behavior. Refused to heat up the hotend. Probably fixable by changing the "start gcode" but IMO slic3r is not worth the hassle, so I never bothered.

Cura doesn't have a triangle infill option last I checked. That's one reason I like MatterSlice. Triangles ftw. :)

I've also seen the same thing regarding the "thousands of layers." I don't know why it does that but it doesn't seem to affect the print, so for now I'd write it off as a cosmetic bug that will probably get fixed sooner or later; after all, all this software is still under active development.

I've never had MatterSlice get hung up on a model though, do you want to post the model here so we can see if other people have the same issue with it?
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I'm trying Slicr3 again, I manually fixed the temperature in the file. Seems to be running fine now AND it's running from SD, something new for me!
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Slicr3 printed from SD fine, really moved along nice and fast with a nice surface finish...but started putting infill into holes that should go through the part.

I had scanned it with the viewer and didn't see that, but probably skipped over there.

Here's the sequence of events, there's ok, a layer later when it starts to join nearby objects (not a problem in itself), later when it stops joining the objects, then one layer later when it's covered almost everything with a floor.
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Problem
Stopped joining, one layer before joining
Stopped joining, one layer before joining
Starts joining objects
Starts joining objects
Just before the problem
Just before the problem
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I got a S3D license and the excellent visualization feature helped me sort out this problem to where it shows it can print this without errors. I've got it running at medium speed and while I started it a couple of hours after the Afinina started one of these same things, it's already well past where the Afinia is. I'm going to like this! :)

Looking forward to being able to get some good looking new parts off to my other customers, too.
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