We just had a user in this thread indicate that he runs his hotend at 260C without any damage so how do you know that geneb's error in the instructions caused the loss of the hot end?
Don't take what I said the wrong way, it would not hurt for someone at seemecnc to go back over and check for errors since this is the manual they are using.
Perhaps the thermistor was loose, screwed up firmware etc. Why didn't everyone who followed these instructions end up with a melted hotend? To suggest that geneb should buy him a
new hot end is ludicrous to the 12th degree. I don't think we are taking anything the wrong way, you are trying to turn a minor issue into more than it is - a minor issue.[/quote]
That was a rhetorical question not a suggestion. Main concern here is that little details like hotend temperature is not overlooked. Never said that something else could have been wrong. At least the manual needs to be on point with the critical things
Hotend seperated.
Re: Hotend seperated.
My rostock build log http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=1228
Re: Hotend seperated.
Ok, hold up there just a second everyone!
I would very much appreciate it if people did not put words into my mouth or say that I have made claims that I have not.
I fully realized from day one that the manual was written through the good grace and kindness of one of the members of this community.
We are very lucky to have him and to have one of the very best assembly manuals out there.
The only statement I have made regarding the error in the manual is that I think it should be reviewed and soon, before someone else melts their hotend.
I have not asked anyone to buy me a new hotend, most certainly not the gentleman whom spent his own time making it for us.
Think you can do a better manual, please by all means do so.
I don't feel that he at any point felt I blamed him or held him responsible for my lost hot end.
The only thing I do think is that it should be addressed ASAP since the document is labeled as an "official" document.
Geneb, if I have been misunderstood by you personally please PM me so I can clear that up immediately, I have nothing but respect for every member I have encountered thus far. And while I may be fresh and new to the 3D printer world and forums. I am by no means a noob when it comes to hardware or computers. I have developed and designed my own CNC lathe (from scratch thank you on the 4th revision), CNC gantry style mill (9th revision), cnc mini mill (accuracy in the sub 100 micron level), and was a software developer for Nintendo for 6 years and before that did industrial design and manufacturing in Germany for many of the large Automakers there.
So I can only assure you that assembling hardware is something I NEVER do half assed or good enough for now.
It's all the way or not at all for me, for me, one of the reasons I have picked a Rostock Max....there are cheaper, preassembled 3d printers available.
So, please don't assume I have half assed my build, please do not put words in my mouth, this is not my first round up partner.
I would very much appreciate it if people did not put words into my mouth or say that I have made claims that I have not.
I fully realized from day one that the manual was written through the good grace and kindness of one of the members of this community.
We are very lucky to have him and to have one of the very best assembly manuals out there.
The only statement I have made regarding the error in the manual is that I think it should be reviewed and soon, before someone else melts their hotend.
I have not asked anyone to buy me a new hotend, most certainly not the gentleman whom spent his own time making it for us.
Think you can do a better manual, please by all means do so.
I don't feel that he at any point felt I blamed him or held him responsible for my lost hot end.
The only thing I do think is that it should be addressed ASAP since the document is labeled as an "official" document.
Geneb, if I have been misunderstood by you personally please PM me so I can clear that up immediately, I have nothing but respect for every member I have encountered thus far. And while I may be fresh and new to the 3D printer world and forums. I am by no means a noob when it comes to hardware or computers. I have developed and designed my own CNC lathe (from scratch thank you on the 4th revision), CNC gantry style mill (9th revision), cnc mini mill (accuracy in the sub 100 micron level), and was a software developer for Nintendo for 6 years and before that did industrial design and manufacturing in Germany for many of the large Automakers there.
So I can only assure you that assembling hardware is something I NEVER do half assed or good enough for now.
It's all the way or not at all for me, for me, one of the reasons I have picked a Rostock Max....there are cheaper, preassembled 3d printers available.
So, please don't assume I have half assed my build, please do not put words in my mouth, this is not my first round up partner.
"Now you see why evil will always triumph! Because good is dumb." - Spaceballs
Re: Hotend seperated.
I have the utmost respect for Gene and the manual that he put together as a volunteer, but cambo3D does have a point when he says someone at the company should sit down and give it a thorough read through and suggest revisions (or take over revisions since the bulk of the work has been done for them, for free).
The manual was my primary source of information when building the printer. Having said that I did research other elements such as the Onyx installation (since it wasn't in the manual at the time) and read a lot about using the hot end before attempting to run filament through it, I also used SeeMeCNC's own videos for some of the more confusing elements that are difficult to sum up in a manual (such as fitting together all the pieces for the extruder). I also used mhackney's awesome build thread to cross reference and double check what I was reading in GeneB's PDF.
But, many people who are new to 3D printing and pay $1000 for a kit will expect a singular source of accurate information. This includes warnings and clear explanations of possible inconsistencies and potential failure points.
I also have the utmost respect for the guys at SeeMeCNC, and they have really put together a stellar piece of kit. If they can bring up the quality of the documentation to match the engineering of the printer, everyone, especially new users, will benefit.
Hey, if they want to donate a printer to my art college I'd be happy to run over through the build instructions with some neophytes and document the whole process. I ain't taking mine apart.
The manual was my primary source of information when building the printer. Having said that I did research other elements such as the Onyx installation (since it wasn't in the manual at the time) and read a lot about using the hot end before attempting to run filament through it, I also used SeeMeCNC's own videos for some of the more confusing elements that are difficult to sum up in a manual (such as fitting together all the pieces for the extruder). I also used mhackney's awesome build thread to cross reference and double check what I was reading in GeneB's PDF.
But, many people who are new to 3D printing and pay $1000 for a kit will expect a singular source of accurate information. This includes warnings and clear explanations of possible inconsistencies and potential failure points.
I also have the utmost respect for the guys at SeeMeCNC, and they have really put together a stellar piece of kit. If they can bring up the quality of the documentation to match the engineering of the printer, everyone, especially new users, will benefit.
Hey, if they want to donate a printer to my art college I'd be happy to run over through the build instructions with some neophytes and document the whole process. I ain't taking mine apart.