Looking for a good book on delta printers

[Windshadow]

to read over the weekend while I await my MaxV2 due on Monday on the big brown truck
I took some time this afternoon to see up a build space in my living room as the workshop does not really have assembly space for something this size (unless I take apart my Dillon reloading setup and I have 2500 rounds of .45 Colt ammo to load this winter)

I saw this one on amazon and as its a kindle ebook I thought I would give it a try
3D Printing with Delta Printers by Charles Bell
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WM0EK1Q
Has any one reviewed it here?

there are no reviews for it on Amazon so I thought i would ask here I did search on the book title and author here with no luck
well at the price of a couple of beers $7.35 I will give it a try.
I am hoping to understand a lot of terminology that right now I am sort of trying to grab from context
Right now I don't even know what is meant by the different mount types I see being talked about for the various hot ends; E3D or Groove mount or J head (to me a J head is what I have on my Bridgeport milling machine. it means its quill uses R-8 collets) or what sort of hot end is that we build in the kit. Folks I am starting at a low level... and I need to learn some of the lingo... I think what I have picked up here over the week will all mean a lot mor to ween I start turning filament into plastic scrap with luck a week from now

but if there are good beginners guides (i hope with glossaries ) either as ebooks or webpages I will be glad of the pointer.

[Eaglezsoar]

The book you found sounds like a good starter book.
It seems that as far as books go, those that deal with 3d printing are still in their infancy and are not that common.
I feel that the best way to learn is to assemble the printer and through the practice of printing you will learn a great deal,
more than you can get from any book.

[Penged]

Being a noob to this I also have been looking for information. Have you tried your library? I am fortunate enough to have access to a Cartesian 3D printer at mine. I am going to attend a workshop on Monday.

[Windshadow]

Eagle, i am a reader by mature and filling this time (of anticipation for the arrival of the big brown truck with my kit) With study is my normal way of learning new things. I am sure you are right that tactual building and learning how to print will be far more valuable.

At the moment i am frustrated by some 'vocabulary of the craft' issues in understanding some of the threads here. and the engineer inn me wants to understand more of how the hotted actually works and how the kit hot end differs from those that folks seem to switch to as the become experienced. as an example Right now i don't even understand the different mounts and how they affect the effector plate designs. so today is reading by the fireplace this delta book... in a month from now when i have learned enough to review it i will give my thought on it.

The author Dr. Bell, has nice things to say about SeeMeCNC in general and this community in particular in his forward; so i am a bit surprised that none of the experts here have reviewed it as yet.

Just trying to give myself a leg up before I vanish into a build state of mind next week.

once i start to hit the calibration stage of the manual I expect to have quite a few questions about that as well

Penged, no easy access here to even Cartesian printers as in a Makerspace i do have friend in the next town who is a small CadCam software expert and he had Mendle of some sort he uses to print fixturing pieces and the like buy he is the only local assets i know of. i did see what the local library had on 3D printing but most of it 5 or 6 years old from what i could see and none of them even mentioned Deltas in their indexes.

[Xenocrates]

Wind, if you have any questions about terminology, you can PM people and ask, or else check the Rep-Rap wiki, which is usually fairly complete, even for subjects that aren't Rep-rap issues.

For example, J-head=groove mount for the most part, and is named after the J head hotend that popularized it, and is used on many many hotends, such as the E3D single nozzles, the Prometheus, and the current J-heads. For the most part, mount design of the hotend itself doesn't greatly affect the effector design, as the mounting plate is almost always seperate, and attached with standoffs (to mount it above for more Z height), or screws through the existing mounting points (and there are a nice number of those), if some aspect makes a mount above impractical, such as a lack of a lack of standoffs of the proper height.

I do like that you've found a book on the subject though, and I'm even happier that it has nice things to say about SeeMeCNC.

Perhaps a glossary should be considered, to pin somewhere like here in the lounge, so that we can attempt to make it easy to look things up when you're new.

[Windshadow]

Thanks Xeno, I never thought of using PM it does have the advantage of my not looking like an idiot asking questions that to most have obvious answers but if the subject line is well picked a public question and reply will benefit future new users. for now I come down on the side of asking in public and risk embarrassment .

And thanks for the info on hot end mounts... from my board reading there seems to be a top 5 or so different hot ends used by folks when they progress beyond the beginner stage with the Max... would a consumer reports compare and contrast review of hotness and extruders make fore a useful thread or is there a website that does this sort of thing with the various aspects of 3D printer different gear? it seems to be a very active area of experiment but the threads I am finding seem to require a lot more knowledge than I have a present... the long thread on Kraken is a good example where I need learn a lot more to understand its finer points.

[geneb]

I had no idea the book even existed until you pointed it out.

g.

[Sonrisa3D]

I have it - That book has great info on machines and software to help get started. Compliments the Rostock instructions well.

[Eaglezsoar]

Eagle, i am a reader by mature and filling this time (of anticipation for the arrival of the big brown truck with my kit) With study is my normal way of learning new things. I am sure you are right that tactual building and learning how to print will be far more valuable.

At the moment i am frustrated by some 'vocabulary of the craft' issues in understanding some of the threads here. and the engineer inn me wants to understand more of how the hotted actually works and how the kit hot end differs from those that folks seem to switch to as the become experienced. as an example Right now i don't even understand the different mounts and how they affect the effector plate designs. so today is reading by the fireplace this delta book... in a month from now when i have learned enough to review it i will give my thought on it.

The author Dr. Bell, has nice things to say about SeeMeCNC in general and this community in particular in his forward; so i am a bit surprised that none of the experts here have reviewed it as yet.

Just trying to give myself a leg up before I vanish into a build state of mind next week.

once i start to hit the calibration stage of the manual I expect to have quite a few questions about that as well

Penged, no easy access here to even Cartesian printers as in a Makerspace i do have friend in the next town who is a small CadCam software expert and he had Mendle of some sort he uses to print fixturing pieces and the like buy he is the only local assets i know of. i did see what the local library had on 3D printing but most of it 5 or 6 years old from what i could see and none of them even mentioned Deltas in their indexes.

I ordered the book you pointed out and should have it by mid December. It looks to be a good read and I appreciate your telling us about it.
Thanks!

[Glacian22]

Thanks Xeno, I never thought of using PM it does have the advantage of my not looking like an idiot asking questions that to most have obvious answers but if the subject line is well picked a public question and reply will benefit future new users. for now I come down on the side of asking in public and risk embarrassment.

Please feel free to start threads with questions as well, even if you think it might be a dumb question. We won't judge you badly, I promise.

[mhackney]

I agree as one who gets A LOT of PMs here! Post your question instead, we don't judge, we've all been there. I would much rather answer once in a post that dozens of individual PMs.

As an alternative, post and then PM a link to the post. That has been an effective strategy some here of used on me!

cheers,
Michael

[626Pilot]

I agree as one who gets A LOT of PMs here! Post your question instead, we don't judge, we've all been there. I would much rather answer once in a post that dozens of individual PMs.

I just turned my PMs off, and my sig says to ask in a thread. That way, everyone has a chance to respond, and everyone has a chance to benefit from the knowledge. Being someone's personal tech support is a waste of time, IMO.

I think you can get every piece of information you need by scouring these and the RepRap forums, and watching some YouTubes. Read the Tips & Tricks and Troubleshooting section especially!

[Windshadow]

I have been scouring these forums since I ordered but it is a hard way to build a base of knowledge when you do not yet have a vocabulary for the tech in question

I am finding this book by Dr. Bell very valuable as it defines the terms being used. and it is providing a foundation for my understanding of the entire area.

this is one item in the book that caught my eye that I am sure I have not seen in my scouring... it may not even apply to the SeeMeCNC products but it is adding to my general background knowledge

Use ESD Shielding for LCD Cables
I have found that some LCD panel components are sensitive to radio interference from other wires. I had this problem on one of my early Prusa printers. It seemed that if I got anywhere near the printer when it was printing, the LCD panel became corrupt. This didn’t seem to affect the printer, and I traced it to a small electrostatic discharge. Despite grounding everything properly, this particular LCD panel was very sensitive to EMI. You can combat this by making sure that your LCD cables are routed away from wires carrying mains (5V or 12V) power. The best method is to wrap the LCD cables in EMI shielding. I use peel-and-stick wire wrap that has a braided core and an aluminum inner sheet. McMaster sells a variety of shielding. The type I used is for EMI/ RF (mcmaster.com/# standard-cable-sleeving/ = rxbz4z). Be sure to mark your cables! Once you wrap them in the shielding, it may not be obvious which end corresponds to one on the other end. I use a small permanent marker to mark both ends of one of the cables (most LCD panels use two cables). Figures 4-10 and 4-11 show the cable before and after the wrap is applied. You will want to keep the dark (black) side facing out.

Bell, Charles (2015-06-30). 3D Printing with Delta Printers (Kindle Locations 3054-3064). Apress. Kindle Edition.

[Eaglezsoar]

I agree as one who gets A LOT of PMs here! Post your question instead, we don't judge, we've all been there. I would much rather answer once in a post that dozens of individual PMs.

I just turned my PMs off, and my sig says to ask in a thread. That way, everyone has a chance to respond, and everyone has a chance to benefit from the knowledge. Being someone's personal tech support is a waste of time, IMO.

I think you can get every piece of information you need by scouring these and the RepRap forums, and watching some YouTubes. Read the Tips & Tricks and Troubleshooting section especially!

I think you have the best idea, the questions should be in a thread. Would you mind if I used your signature?

[626Pilot]

I think you have the best idea, the questions should be in a thread. Would you mind if I used your signature?

Do it!

[626Pilot]

I was curious, so I bought a copy of the book on Kindle for ten bucks. It's not bad! My only gripe is that it only discusses 8-bit controllers and firmware. To be really complete, I would've included the Duet, Smoothie and BeagleBone solutions, but these aren't mentioned at all.

[Eaglezsoar]

I think you have the best idea, the questions should be in a thread. Would you mind if I used your signature?

Do it!

Done!