Rostock Max v3 settings for Simplify3D

[ComJak]

Hello!

Does anyone have configuration parameters for the Rostock Max v3 in Simplify3D?

Thanks!

[Mac The Knife]

I can't think of any reason why they would be any different from the RMV2, other than maybe a little bit more build area.

[ComJak]

Ok I'll just use those then. Thanks,

[mhackney]

Retract settings would probably benefit from tweaking. If you retract too much you'll get jamming.

[Noircogi]

Yeah, I ended up turning the retraction settings down significantly. I was printing some of this barrel ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:950024 ) for testing and the built-in retraction values for a Max V2 in simplify3d left a pretty big seam gap.
Other than that and adjusting the build area, I just did standard tweaks.

I also did a start script which heats both the bed and extruder simultaneously.

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M106 S0 ; fan off
M140 S[bed1_temperature] ; Bed heater on
M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0 ; Extruder heater on
M190 S[bed1_temperature] ; Wait for bed to stabilize
M109 S[extruder0_temperature] T0 ; Wait for extruder to Stabilize
G28 ; home all axes

I had some head scratching on that until I figured out that the Max uses "bed1" instead of "bed0" like my other printer.

Here's my full ABS profile you can use for comparison:
(Save it as Max_ABS.FFF, then in simplify3d, import FFF profile)

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<profile name="Max ABS" version="2016-09-27 10:13:02" app="S3D-Software 3.1.0">
  <baseProfile>Rostock MAX v2 (modified)</baseProfile>
  <printMaterial>ABS</printMaterial>
  <printQuality>Medium</printQuality>
  <printExtruders></printExtruders>
  <extruder name="Primary Extruder">
    <toolheadNumber>0</toolheadNumber>
    <diameter>0.5</diameter>
    <autoWidth>0</autoWidth>
    <width>0.5</width>
    <extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
    <useRetract>1</useRetract>
    <retractionDistance>1.5</retractionDistance>
    <extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
    <retractionZLift>0.3</retractionZLift>
    <retractionSpeed>6600</retractionSpeed>
    <useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
    <coastingDistance>1</coastingDistance>
    <useWipe>0</useWipe>
    <wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
  </extruder>
  <primaryExtruder>0</primaryExtruder>
  <layerHeight>0.25</layerHeight>
  <topSolidLayers>4</topSolidLayers>
  <bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
  <perimeterOutlines>3</perimeterOutlines>
  <printPerimetersInsideOut>1</printPerimetersInsideOut>
  <startPointOption>2</startPointOption>
  <startPointOriginX>0</startPointOriginX>
  <startPointOriginY>0</startPointOriginY>
  <startPointOriginZ>300</startPointOriginZ>
  <sequentialIslands>0</sequentialIslands>
  <spiralVaseMode>0</spiralVaseMode>
  <firstLayerHeightPercentage>90</firstLayerHeightPercentage>
  <firstLayerWidthPercentage>100</firstLayerWidthPercentage>
  <firstLayerUnderspeed>0.5</firstLayerUnderspeed>
  <useRaft>0</useRaft>
  <raftExtruder>0</raftExtruder>
  <raftLayers>3</raftLayers>
  <raftOffset>3</raftOffset>
  <raftSeparationDistance>0.14</raftSeparationDistance>
  <raftInfill>85</raftInfill>
  <disableRaftBaseLayers>0</disableRaftBaseLayers>
  <useSkirt>1</useSkirt>
  <skirtExtruder>0</skirtExtruder>
  <skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
  <skirtOutlines>3</skirtOutlines>
  <skirtOffset>4</skirtOffset>
  <usePrimePillar>0</usePrimePillar>
  <primePillarExtruder>999</primePillarExtruder>
  <primePillarWidth>12</primePillarWidth>
  <primePillarLocation>7</primePillarLocation>
  <primePillarSpeedMultiplier>1</primePillarSpeedMultiplier>
  <useOozeShield>0</useOozeShield>
  <oozeShieldExtruder>999</oozeShieldExtruder>
  <oozeShieldOffset>2</oozeShieldOffset>
  <oozeShieldOutlines>1</oozeShieldOutlines>
  <oozeShieldSidewallShape>1</oozeShieldSidewallShape>
  <oozeShieldSidewallAngle>30</oozeShieldSidewallAngle>
  <oozeShieldSpeedMultiplier>1</oozeShieldSpeedMultiplier>
  <infillExtruder>0</infillExtruder>
  <internalInfillPattern>Rectilinear</internalInfillPattern>
  <externalInfillPattern>Rectilinear</externalInfillPattern>
  <infillPercentage>25</infillPercentage>
  <outlineOverlapPercentage>15</outlineOverlapPercentage>
  <infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>150</infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>
  <minInfillLength>5</minInfillLength>
  <infillLayerInterval>1</infillLayerInterval>
  <infillAngles>45,-45</infillAngles>
  <overlapInfillAngles>0</overlapInfillAngles>
  <generateSupport>1</generateSupport>
  <supportExtruder>0</supportExtruder>
  <supportInfillPercentage>30</supportInfillPercentage>
  <supportExtraInflation>0</supportExtraInflation>
  <denseSupportLayers>0</denseSupportLayers>
  <denseSupportInfillPercentage>70</denseSupportInfillPercentage>
  <supportLayerInterval>1</supportLayerInterval>
  <supportHorizontalPartOffset>0.3</supportHorizontalPartOffset>
  <supportUpperSeparationLayers>1</supportUpperSeparationLayers>
  <supportLowerSeparationLayers>1</supportLowerSeparationLayers>
  <supportType>1</supportType>
  <supportGridSpacing>4</supportGridSpacing>
  <maxOverhangAngle>45</maxOverhangAngle>
  <supportAngles>0</supportAngles>
  <temperatureController name="Primary Extruder">
    <temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
    <isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
    <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
    <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
    <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
    <setpoint layer="1" temperature="235"/>
  </temperatureController>
  <temperatureController name="Heated Bed">
    <temperatureNumber>1</temperatureNumber>
    <isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
    <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
    <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
    <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
    <setpoint layer="1" temperature="100"/>
    <setpoint layer="20" temperature="90"/>
  </temperatureController>
  <fanSpeed>
    <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
    <setpoint layer="2" speed="33"/>
  </fanSpeed>
  <blipFanToFullPower>1</blipFanToFullPower>
  <adjustSpeedForCooling>1</adjustSpeedForCooling>
  <minSpeedLayerTime>15</minSpeedLayerTime>
  <minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>20</minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>
  <increaseFanForCooling>0</increaseFanForCooling>
  <minFanLayerTime>60</minFanLayerTime>
  <maxCoolingFanSpeed>100</maxCoolingFanSpeed>
  <increaseFanForBridging>0</increaseFanForBridging>
  <bridgingFanSpeed>100</bridgingFanSpeed>
  <use5D>1</use5D>
  <relativeEdistances>0</relativeEdistances>
  <allowEaxisZeroing>1</allowEaxisZeroing>
  <independentExtruderAxes>0</independentExtruderAxes>
  <includeM10123>0</includeM10123>
  <stickySupport>1</stickySupport>
  <applyToolheadOffsets>0</applyToolheadOffsets>
  <gcodeXoffset>0</gcodeXoffset>
  <gcodeYoffset>0</gcodeYoffset>
  <gcodeZoffset>-0.15</gcodeZoffset>
  <overrideMachineDefinition>1</overrideMachineDefinition>
  <machineTypeOverride>1</machineTypeOverride>
  <strokeXoverride>219</strokeXoverride>
  <strokeYoverride>219</strokeYoverride>
  <strokeZoverride>390</strokeZoverride>
  <originOffsetXoverride>109.5</originOffsetXoverride>
  <originOffsetYoverride>109.5</originOffsetYoverride>
  <originOffsetZoverride>0</originOffsetZoverride>
  <homeXdirOverride>0</homeXdirOverride>
  <homeYdirOverride>0</homeYdirOverride>
  <homeZdirOverride>1</homeZdirOverride>
  <flipXoverride>1</flipXoverride>
  <flipYoverride>-1</flipYoverride>
  <flipZoverride>1</flipZoverride>
  <toolheadOffsets>0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0|0,0</toolheadOffsets>
  <overrideFirmwareConfiguration>1</overrideFirmwareConfiguration>
  <firmwareTypeOverride>RepRap (Marlin/Repetier/Sprinter)</firmwareTypeOverride>
  <GPXconfigOverride>r2</GPXconfigOverride>
  <baudRateOverride>250000</baudRateOverride>
  <overridePrinterModels>1</overridePrinterModels>
  <printerModelsOverride></printerModelsOverride>
  <startingGcode>M106 S0 ; fan off,M140 S[bed1_temperature] ; Bed heater on,M104 S[extruder0_temperature] T0 ; Extruder heater on,M190 S[bed1_temperature] ; Wait for bed to stabilize,M109 S[extruder0_temperature] T0 ; Wait for extruder to Stabilize,G28 ; home all axes,,</startingGcode>
  <layerChangeGcode></layerChangeGcode>
  <retractionGcode></retractionGcode>
  <toolChangeGcode></toolChangeGcode>
  <endingGcode>M104 S0 ; turn off extruder,M140 S0 ; turn off bed,M106 S0 ; turn off part fan,G28 ; home axes,M84 ; disable motors</endingGcode>
  <exportFileFormat>gcode</exportFileFormat>
  <celebration>0</celebration>
  <celebrationSong>Random Song</celebrationSong>
  <postProcessing></postProcessing>
  <defaultSpeed>3000</defaultSpeed>
  <outlineUnderspeed>0.5</outlineUnderspeed>
  <solidInfillUnderspeed>0.8</solidInfillUnderspeed>
  <supportUnderspeed>0.8</supportUnderspeed>
  <rapidXYspeed>9000</rapidXYspeed>
  <rapidZspeed>1200</rapidZspeed>
  <minBridgingArea>50</minBridgingArea>
  <bridgingExtraInflation>0</bridgingExtraInflation>
  <bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>0.95</bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>
  <bridgingSpeedMultiplier>0.7</bridgingSpeedMultiplier>
  <filamentDiameter>1.75</filamentDiameter>
  <filamentPricePerKg>46</filamentPricePerKg>
  <filamentDensity>1.25</filamentDensity>
  <useMinPrintHeight>0</useMinPrintHeight>
  <minPrintHeight>0</minPrintHeight>
  <useMaxPrintHeight>0</useMaxPrintHeight>
  <maxPrintHeight>0</maxPrintHeight>
  <useDiaphragm>0</useDiaphragm>
  <diaphragmLayerInterval>20</diaphragmLayerInterval>
  <robustSlicing>1</robustSlicing>
  <mergeAllIntoSolid>0</mergeAllIntoSolid>
  <onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>1</onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>
  <retractBetweenLayers>1</retractBetweenLayers>
  <useRetractionMinTravel>0</useRetractionMinTravel>
  <retractionMinTravel>3</retractionMinTravel>
  <retractWhileWiping>0</retractWhileWiping>
  <onlyWipeOutlines>1</onlyWipeOutlines>
  <avoidCrossingOutline>0</avoidCrossingOutline>
  <maxMovementDetourFactor>3</maxMovementDetourFactor>
  <toolChangeRetractionDistance>12</toolChangeRetractionDistance>
  <toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>-0.5</toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>
  <toolChangeRetractionSpeed>600</toolChangeRetractionSpeed>
  <allowThinWallGapFill>1</allowThinWallGapFill>
  <thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>10</thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>
  <horizontalSizeCompensation>0</horizontalSizeCompensation>
  <autoConfigureMaterial name="PLA">
    <temperatureController name="Primary Extruder">
      <temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="235"/>
      <setpoint layer="4" temperature="230"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <temperatureController name="Heated Bed">
      <temperatureNumber>1</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="70"/>
      <setpoint layer="10" temperature="60"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <globalExtrusionMultiplier>1</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
    <fanSpeed>
      <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
      <setpoint layer="4" speed="10"/>
      <setpoint layer="30" speed="25"/>
    </fanSpeed>
  </autoConfigureMaterial>
  <autoConfigureMaterial name="ABS">
    <globalExtruderTemperature>235</globalExtruderTemperature>
    <temperatureController name="Heated Bed">
      <temperatureNumber>1</temperatureNumber>
      <isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
      <relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
      <relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
      <stabilizeAtStartup>1</stabilizeAtStartup>
      <setpoint layer="1" temperature="100"/>
      <setpoint layer="20" temperature="90"/>
    </temperatureController>
    <globalExtrusionMultiplier>1</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
    <fanSpeed>
      <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
      <setpoint layer="2" speed="33"/>
    </fanSpeed>
  </autoConfigureMaterial>
  <autoConfigureMaterial name="PVA">
    <globalExtruderTemperature>195</globalExtruderTemperature>
    <globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
    <globalExtrusionMultiplier>1</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
    <fanSpeed>
      <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
      <setpoint layer="2" speed="100"/>
    </fanSpeed>
  </autoConfigureMaterial>
  <autoConfigureMaterial name="Nylon">
    <globalExtruderTemperature>220</globalExtruderTemperature>
    <globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
    <globalExtrusionMultiplier>1</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
    <fanSpeed>
      <setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
    </fanSpeed>
  </autoConfigureMaterial>
  <autoConfigureQuality name="Fast">
    <layerHeight>0.35</layerHeight>
    <topSolidLayers>3</topSolidLayers>
    <bottomSolidLayers>3</bottomSolidLayers>
    <skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
    <infillPercentage>15</infillPercentage>
    <supportInfillPercentage>25</supportInfillPercentage>
  </autoConfigureQuality>
  <autoConfigureQuality name="Medium">
    <layerHeight>0.25</layerHeight>
    <topSolidLayers>4</topSolidLayers>
    <bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
    <skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
    <infillPercentage>25</infillPercentage>
    <supportInfillPercentage>30</supportInfillPercentage>
  </autoConfigureQuality>
  <autoConfigureQuality name="High">
    <layerHeight>0.15</layerHeight>
    <topSolidLayers>4</topSolidLayers>
    <bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
    <skirtLayers>2</skirtLayers>
    <infillPercentage>30</infillPercentage>
    <supportInfillPercentage>40</supportInfillPercentage>
  </autoConfigureQuality>
</profile>

My printer has a modified heater setup, so it can hit 100C in 3 minutes, if you are not using a glass bed and cooler temps, you will want to change things.

[ComJak]

Awesome thanks,

What exactly would I need to change on the hotbed setup if I'm just using the default hotbed?

[Noircogi]

Just start it at 90C instead of 100C.

[ido3dprintz]

I have the same basic settings as posted above in my PLA profile for S3D (with PLA temps of course), and the prints still look like doo-doo. A tweaking I will go!

[javiercordero20]

Hello All,


Anyone get any closer to a S3D profile for the V3? I'm not a big fan of MatterControl.


Sincerely,
J.D. Cordero

[Noircogi]

Hello All,


Anyone get any closer to a S3D profile for the V3? I'm not a big fan of MatterControl.


Sincerely,
J.D. Cordero

Did you try the one I posted? Are you having problems with it? It's working fine for me.

[javiercordero20]

Hello All,


Anyone get any closer to a S3D profile for the V3? I'm not a big fan of MatterControl.


Sincerely,
J.D. Cordero

Did you try the one I posted? Are you having problems with it? It's working fine for me.

Hello,

No, not yet. I will try it now. I was hesitant because I read it was for ABS. I will give it a try now.

[javiercordero20]

Hello All,


Anyone get any closer to a S3D profile for the V3? I'm not a big fan of MatterControl.


Sincerely,
J.D. Cordero

Did you try the one I posted? Are you having problems with it? It's working fine for me.

Hello again,

I have now tried your profile. I have tweaked the temps to match those in MatterControl since I am printing PLA and know the temp this PLA likes.

Here is a comparison picture.

On the left is the cube printed by MatterControl and on the left S3D. S3D printed much faster but didn't produce as clean of a print. I also saw the corners bow up while it was printing.

[Noircogi]

You said left for both, but one of them looks to be printing at a much higher speed than the other.
Are the temperatures the same?

[javiercordero20]

You said left for both, but one of them looks to be printing at a much higher speed than the other.
Are the temperatures the same?

My mistake. Both are printed at same temps. Left is MatterControl. Right is S3D.

I printed a third one with the fan @ 100% from Layer 2 onwards. I don't have a picture but that printed better.

[abecker]

Do these lower retraction settings work well for PLA as well? I know before the upgrade the default in S3D was around 8mm.

[mhackney]

@abecker - your question can not be answered without knowing what hot end you are using. Yes, this is a V3 thread but we/I do not know if you have a V3 and/or an HE280 hot end. If so and with the stock HE280 hotend, an 8mm retract will GUARANTEE that you get jamming with PLA. 1mm is perfect for the HE280.

[mhackney]

I might also recommend reading the first link in my signature - especially #9 on how to find the best extrusion temperature. A little up front practice and learning will SIGNIFICANTLY improve your results and contribute to the the fun factor. Frustration without knowledge is not fun.

[abecker]

Sorry I am using the HE280 hotend, and that may explain some of the issues I have had with it.

[mhackney]

Yes, I saw one of your prints with gaps in the layers likely due to filament starving. High retract with PLA can certainly cause that.

[mhackney]

I've been working on this for a couple of weeks. It's posted now and might help you out: Some musing on retracts

[javiercordero20]

@abecker - your question can not be answered without knowing what hot end you are using. Yes, this is a V3 thread but we/I do not know if you have a V3 and/or an HE280 hot end. If so and with the stock HE280 hotend, an 8mm retract will GUARANTEE that you get jamming with PLA. 1mm is perfect for the HE280.

Hello,

I'll respond here to both threads.

1. The Bed issue.
I made a mistake during assembly which affected the movement of the carriages. When I pulled the belts through the bottom section I also pulled them over the screw joint as shown in this picture. Needless to say after correcting this problem the printed moved easier and quieter. After installing my buildtak I also got my adhesion issue fixed. The issue was the PLA would sorta stick but not fully. the parts that did stick onto the glass were stuck. Buildtak sheet solved that nicely.

2. Retraction
I was experiencing some clogging/jamming so I took your advice and reduced the retraction from 6.xmm to 1.0mm. My calibration print finished with some stringing. I think I will bump up the retraction a little and try again. Here's the test print which also tests bed leveling.

I look forward to your feedback.

Thanks again.

[geneb]

instead of adjusting retraction, try dialing back the temperature to eliminate the strings.

g.

[mhackney]

Good news on the belt routing discovery. I was right, a problem with the Z tower!

On the stringing, try calibrating your melt temp rather than increase retract. Did you see the part I printed on Sunday with my new V3? Very first part absolutely no stringing. And those small diameter pillars are a killer if temps and retract settings are not right-on. The blog post I made today on retracts links to instructions on finding the best temperature for your filament.

[javiercordero20]

Good news on the belt routing discovery. I was right, a problem with the Z tower!

On the stringing, try calibrating your melt temp rather than increase retract. Did you see the part I printed on Sunday with my new V3? Very first part absolutely no stringing. And those small diameter pillars are a killer if temps and retract settings are not right-on. The blog post I made today on retracts links to instructions on finding the best temperature for your filament.

Hello,

No I didn't I am new to the forum and this is also my first Delta. I'm doing a few temp print tests now.. hope to find the sweet spot in the next print.

Then I will go back to Simplify3D to figure out what is wrong with the profile.