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Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:15 am
by mhackney
David, I'm sending a LOT more than 10 meters now that I've given up on it and the vendor is not wanting it back. Let us know how you fare! I'll also do one more attempt now that I've stripped a lot off the roll to see if maybe the problem was isolated to the outside of the roll.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:43 am
by DavidF
mhackney wrote:David, I'm sending a LOT more than 10 meters now that I've given up on it and the vendor is not wanting it back. Let us know how you fare! I'll also do one more attempt now that I've stripped a lot off the roll to see if maybe the problem was isolated to the outside of the roll.
since you had whiped down the filament and tried it I would have to suspect that its not something on the filament, but rather in it.
I dont know how that make the filament, but at a guess it comes peletized in a natural color then they add the coloring pellets and runb it thru an extruder to form the filament. Too much colorant could break down the properties of the filament causing all sorts of issues. burning out the filament and measuring the ash content may reveal the underlying cause. You might also be able to get an idea with a simple break test.
Thatts my best guess anyway ;)

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:48 am
by mhackney
The wipe down did have a noticeable effect for the positive, just not enough. Silicone is very difficult to eradicate. Hard to say on what the problem is.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:29 pm
by geneb
I wonder if some machine lubricant was introduced to the material during extrusion.

Try this - put a 1" length between two paper towels and then crush it in a vice and see if you get any oils on the paper towel.

g.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:32 pm
by mhackney
Nope, nothing on the towel. But obviously when I clean the surface, it does attempt to stick a bit but not great.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:46 pm
by DavidF
think I havce found out what the problem is......its not pla...its abs....dissolving some now in acetone....

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:09 pm
by mhackney
If it's ABS, then it should have stuck like glue to hairspray on glass. If it dissolves in acetone, its not PLA!

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:18 pm
by bubbasnow
mhackney wrote:If it's ABS, then it should have stuck like glue to hairspray on glass. If it dissolves in acetone, its not PLA!
maybe its abplas.. a unique hybrid between the 2 that provides no extra functionality or usefulness

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:27 pm
by DavidF
bubbasnow wrote:
mhackney wrote:If it's ABS, then it should have stuck like glue to hairspray on glass. If it dissolves in acetone, its not PLA!
maybe its abplas.. a unique hybrid between the 2 that provides no extra functionality or usefulness
I know people like that....

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:50 pm
by Eaglezsoar
DavidF wrote:
bubbasnow wrote:
mhackney wrote:If it's ABS, then it should have stuck like glue to hairspray on glass. If it dissolves in acetone, its not PLA!
maybe its abplas.. a unique hybrid between the 2 that provides no extra functionality or usefulness
I know people like that....
I have a Mother-in-law like that, maybe I can print a new one.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:25 pm
by DavidF

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:17 pm
by mhackney
Hmm, I guess I didn't take my bed above 60° C my normal PLA bed temp. But surprisingly it didn't stick to anything at that temp. I'll try it now knowing it's ABS! Mystery solved.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:33 pm
by DavidF
It seems to be pretty good stuff, not that I am any kind of authority on filaments, but id be happy with it (if it was labled abs)
My grand daughter loves the color.. A quick burn test let me know it was not PLA, when you burn pla it burns clean and smells sweet with no smoke, abs burns with a black heavy smoke and stinks like burnt plastic. I dont recommend burning abs, but it is an easy test.....

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:39 pm
by bubbasnow
pink e3d nozzle mount..

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:42 pm
by Eaglezsoar
bubbasnow wrote:pink e3d nozzle mount..
Bubba, are you feeling okay?

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:43 pm
by DavidF
bubbasnow wrote:pink e3d nozzle mount..

yep, mhackney's own design....im printing a few spares so if someone burns down thier peek and wants to switch to the e3d I can send them one.
been trying to figure out a way I can help out :D

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:14 pm
by mhackney
LOL. I feel like an idiot! But it is amazing that I never have problems getting ABS to stick. But, I guess an 80°C bed makes a big difference!

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:17 pm
by Eaglezsoar
mhackney wrote:LOL. I feel like an idiot! But it is amazing that I never have problems getting ABS to stick. But, I guess an 80°C bed makes a big difference!
Guess what? You're human and are allowed to make mistakes.

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:21 pm
by DavidF
aww man, dont feel like an idiot... you expected it to be PLA and act as such......but got duped and it was abs.... not your fault. But hey, it seems to be good stuff and I wouldnt hesitate to recommending it... provided its labeled properly... :D

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:23 am
by mhackney
Eaglezsoar wrote:
mhackney wrote:LOL. I feel like an idiot! But it is amazing that I never have problems getting ABS to stick. But, I guess an 80°C bed makes a big difference!
Guess what? You're human and are allowed to make mistakes.
Not according to my "manager"!

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:53 pm
by lordbinky
Eaglezsoar wrote:
mhackney wrote:LOL. I feel like an idiot! But it is amazing that I never have problems getting ABS to stick. But, I guess an 80°C bed makes a big difference!
Guess what? You're human and are allowed to make mistakes.
Both of those issues can be fixed.... Come here Michael. What's this cloth smell like to you..... :D

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:37 am
by Eaglezsoar
Lordbinky, you are hilarious!

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:40 am
by mhackney
Be afraid, be very afraid...

:)

Re: Pink PLA troubleshooting

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:22 pm
by Khalid Khattak
OMG---History repeat itself time and again :) ;)