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While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:47 am
by ido3dprintz
This printer is a trooper. She kept going and going through the struggle. It looks like I have a partial clogged extruder assembly. Thoughts? I have never cleaned one before so I'm hoping I don't have to tear this whole HE280 apart to fix it.


[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... z5cgsm.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... v6y9wg.jpg[/img]

It continued to print in a "failed" status, looks real bad and patchy. I cancelled the print and tried to remove the filament. It came off right at the end of the bowden tube when I pulled the retention clip off.

Not sure how much is still inside.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:10 am
by mhackney
Start with that extruder. You will probably need to remove it and pen it p to clean all that ground filament out. That is probably your issue, the other end (the hot end) is probably just fine.

PS 3D printing is not a hobby, it's a lifestyle!

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:55 am
by ido3dprintz
That would be great if its just the EZR. Would a bad setting cause this? Like the EZR is trying to put too much filament through the nozzle that cant handle it?

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:03 pm
by mhackney
It could have been caused by a lot of things. How much experience do you have? Have you had 1 reasonably good print? If so, your slicer settings are likely fine. What were you tweaking? That's the place to start.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:43 pm
by ido3dprintz
I have had amazing prints ever since I switched to SD card printing (like I have always done on other printers). Mattercontrol from my junky laptop caused pausing/blobs/zits so I still use it to slice and save gcode to SD- so much better. Stringing has always been an issue so I changed retraction settings a bit and got a decent looking slime rancher.

My mistake was trying to speed this rig up I think. I was hoping for something faster than a snails-pace and then let it rip. Stringing came back and the EZR jammed all up.


[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... venacg.jpg[/img]
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Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:36 pm
by ido3dprintz
Success! Then Epic FAIL yet again. I'm at a loss....

I decided to try the bandaid gcode so there was no possibility of me messing it up. After cleaning out all the red PLA fragments from the PTFE and the EZR I gave it a try. It printed OK. The results are not any where near as nice as Michael's in that the corners are doo-doo and the top layers seem not enough, but it was a successful print.

[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... 3fjb5r.jpg[/img]


I then decided to throw a Benchy at it using the KISSlicer and Michael's profile I imported......once again, trying to not make a problem when it is MY doing..... So I sliced and began to print. Came back after a bit to discover the EZR is now starting to have fresh white dust all inside it, and the motor gear is 1/2 gummed up just like the red PLA did (ended up canceling part way through). I could see it trying to print, but it was struggling.......what else could I look into next to see why it does this?

I get clean pulls through the PTFE so I dont think it is binding up in there

[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... ztdz0k.jpg[/img]

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:50 pm
by morgandc
Is the extruder clicking?
Can you feed through the boden and hot end by hand (holding the release and pushing).

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:58 pm
by ido3dprintz
Yes, sometimes it is clicking. I can see the motor running and not pushing filament. On the Benchy.

On the bandaid, it worked no problem that is why Im lost.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 10:19 pm
by mhackney
Have you checked that the extruder's gear is aligned with the filament?

Then slow down to 25/s and see what happens.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:44 am
by cloneit3d
Retraction setting changes can cause the issues you are describing. I made changes to my my V3 and lost track of what I changed so I went to MatterHacker and added my printer again with a new name and that will load all the default settings so you can at least start from a known starting point.

Best of luck!

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:24 pm
by ido3dprintz
The official name for this printer is Britney Spears, or Britney for short, because oops, She did it again.

I decided to start fresh as mentioned above. While I was at it, I did check the alignment of the filament and the gearing and it looks good. I re-printed the bandaid using Cura as the slicer of choice with Michael's settings and it came out almost perfect; even better than the Kisslicer one did. The first layer had a few issues, as you can see from the picture, but eventually worked itself out.

[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... okmeqy.jpg[/img]

Feeling confident, I decided to give it a retraction test file to see the "stringing goodness" this machine likes to give me no matter what I seem to do and DISASTER strikes yet again. I didn't change a thing. Used same slicer, same settings as earlier and this happens:

[img]http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh5 ... rzvdzo.jpg[/img]

You can see where it was slipping on the extruder at first almost 1/2 way up the print, then it "fixes" itself to give nice layers till the super stringing starts back up. I think this is a every-other-time printer. I get one good, then one bad with nothing changing at all.......

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:45 pm
by Holy1

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:48 pm
by ido3dprintz
Holy1 wrote:See if this is your problem http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php ... 373#p48928
Thanks for the link to check. Ill go back and look again, but I'm pretty sure the gear was normal at last glance.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:32 pm
by Ravitch
Did you ever sort out your extruder grinding and chewing up filament into pixie dust? My V3 just started doing it out of nowhere, and I haven't changed anything settings wise. Curious if you nailed the fix down. Thanks.

Re: While tweaking my V3, I managed to jam it all up

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:42 pm
by Ravitch
Holy1 wrote:See if this is your problem http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php ... 373#p48928
Scratch that last post and thanks for that link! I just checked my hobbed bolt and its machined goofy, almost smooth. This is my first run of PETG through so I guess the greater softness than PLA is making it lose traction. Time to take pics and submit a ticket for replacement.