Tricky heating problem going on. Here is what i tried already,...and think... i'm stumped
Posted: Sun May 14, 2017 11:19 am
hi everyone, ive a problem...
delta H2 printer, latest firmware, mattercontrol, windows 10 systems.
this printer seems to be working good when it works, my issue is it doesnt heat up, it doesnt begin the heating process? intermittently...
this happens when i try manually to heat up the hot end via the lcd or thru mattercontrol 'preheat' and 'print' commands.
test 1: i put a heat gun to the hot end, and the temp does indicate the temp of the hot end it going up, on the lcd, and in matter control.
test 2: i took the he280 hot end out, and did a brief ohm continuity test on the resistor on the hot end, (i did not un-solder it from pcd or other end, but unplugged ptr, etc.. ) i put the test leads on the end wires of the heat resistor, shows 0 resistance, so it looked good.
the red light on the mini-rambo for the mofset extruder heat comes on when heat is called for... also a little red light on the pcb he280 accelerator board comes on (as well as the 2 blue lights already on).
then i can wiggle the whip wire a bit, tug it a little in a unknown direction, and it will begin heating up properly, then if i print, i get the 'decoupled error'
so i assumed the whip wire (8-pin connector) was coming loose.. i tried a few of the 'whip clips' to print but they didnt seem tight fit enough, so i got an 8-pin 'locking' connector (http://www.themakerhive.com/shop/viewit ... oductid=39) it seemed did the same thing, heated up, printed once or twice, or with print decoupling error, and also needs wiggling...
when i just goto print, and wait, i get the 'NOZ: def' and 'heater decoupled' error/situation.
i have cleared theeprom, reloaded the firmware, g29, pid.
i have taken the 8-pin connector wires out, and cut them even, re-stripped the end a little bit, and put back into the connector, i even used a little safety pin tip to go 'into the hole along next to the wire' to open up the 'whatever tightens on the wire inside' the connector, so that i got a good fit into the connector (then pull out the safety pin, and leave the wire end in tight to fit...)
so, im thinking... it could be:
a. still the heat resistor on the hot end, although it looks like it tests with full continuity, i didnt un-solder it and test it 'alone'.? i think this because all i looked around and saw this error, and this result on the lcd after a print or preheat attempt, all forums said it pointed to the heat resistor on the hot end.
b. the hot end itself, the 8-pin connector mounted on the pcb accelerator board...?
c. maybe my hot end is just not installed securely, maybe i need to take it out, open it up, un-solder the ends, and then cleanly re-solder all the connectors for the hot end assembly?
d. i dont think its the thermistor, as when i use the heat gun the temp goes up, so (if im correct...) that is working properly, and sending signal to the minirambo properly...)
thanks again for any help resolving this, i just printed the 'whip clip, that has the 'full round cover for the hot-end..that clips it in place, but its basically the same a s the 8-pin connector with clip i installed.. its not 'coming out' of the 8-pin mount, it is secure, but somewhere its wrong, loose, not right..
i still very new to this, newbie, and especially new with using the multi-meter to test items... (l saw how to test the heat resistor on youtube video meant for dryer heat-resistor, but thay said the test is the same for 'all' heat resistors... )
the wiggling the whip a bit isnt working anymore, and i dont want to pull it too much to get it going...
marc
delta H2 printer, latest firmware, mattercontrol, windows 10 systems.
this printer seems to be working good when it works, my issue is it doesnt heat up, it doesnt begin the heating process? intermittently...
this happens when i try manually to heat up the hot end via the lcd or thru mattercontrol 'preheat' and 'print' commands.
test 1: i put a heat gun to the hot end, and the temp does indicate the temp of the hot end it going up, on the lcd, and in matter control.
test 2: i took the he280 hot end out, and did a brief ohm continuity test on the resistor on the hot end, (i did not un-solder it from pcd or other end, but unplugged ptr, etc.. ) i put the test leads on the end wires of the heat resistor, shows 0 resistance, so it looked good.
the red light on the mini-rambo for the mofset extruder heat comes on when heat is called for... also a little red light on the pcb he280 accelerator board comes on (as well as the 2 blue lights already on).
then i can wiggle the whip wire a bit, tug it a little in a unknown direction, and it will begin heating up properly, then if i print, i get the 'decoupled error'
so i assumed the whip wire (8-pin connector) was coming loose.. i tried a few of the 'whip clips' to print but they didnt seem tight fit enough, so i got an 8-pin 'locking' connector (http://www.themakerhive.com/shop/viewit ... oductid=39) it seemed did the same thing, heated up, printed once or twice, or with print decoupling error, and also needs wiggling...
when i just goto print, and wait, i get the 'NOZ: def' and 'heater decoupled' error/situation.
i have cleared theeprom, reloaded the firmware, g29, pid.
i have taken the 8-pin connector wires out, and cut them even, re-stripped the end a little bit, and put back into the connector, i even used a little safety pin tip to go 'into the hole along next to the wire' to open up the 'whatever tightens on the wire inside' the connector, so that i got a good fit into the connector (then pull out the safety pin, and leave the wire end in tight to fit...)
so, im thinking... it could be:
a. still the heat resistor on the hot end, although it looks like it tests with full continuity, i didnt un-solder it and test it 'alone'.? i think this because all i looked around and saw this error, and this result on the lcd after a print or preheat attempt, all forums said it pointed to the heat resistor on the hot end.
b. the hot end itself, the 8-pin connector mounted on the pcb accelerator board...?
c. maybe my hot end is just not installed securely, maybe i need to take it out, open it up, un-solder the ends, and then cleanly re-solder all the connectors for the hot end assembly?
d. i dont think its the thermistor, as when i use the heat gun the temp goes up, so (if im correct...) that is working properly, and sending signal to the minirambo properly...)
thanks again for any help resolving this, i just printed the 'whip clip, that has the 'full round cover for the hot-end..that clips it in place, but its basically the same a s the 8-pin connector with clip i installed.. its not 'coming out' of the 8-pin mount, it is secure, but somewhere its wrong, loose, not right..
i still very new to this, newbie, and especially new with using the multi-meter to test items... (l saw how to test the heat resistor on youtube video meant for dryer heat-resistor, but thay said the test is the same for 'all' heat resistors... )
the wiggling the whip a bit isnt working anymore, and i dont want to pull it too much to get it going...
marc