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PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:00 am
by dc42
Any of you who have fitted Haydn Huntley's magnetic rods and ball studs to your printer may be interested in the Duet3D PCB effector and carriage adapters, which will be shipping next week. It incorporates a nozzle contact sensor for bed probing based on strain gauge technology. See https://www.duet3d.com/DuetAddons/DeltaSmartEffector for details.

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Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:04 pm
by adarcher
Hmm, no one has replied to this?

I just got a filastruder email about this going on sale on their site and thought it was something new and interesting...

I've got a small project I was working up to testing where I took out the strain gauges from an old wii-fit board--used the gauges years and years ago in college.

Anyone try this out and like it? There was a bit of talk about Piezo disks, are those better than this?

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:22 am
by DeltaCon
I don't understand why these would be restricted to Haydn Huntley's magnetic rods and ball studs. I think it would not be a lot of work to fit the SeeMe barballs to the carriages. The idea of the tip of your hotend being the probe is appealing. FSR's do that, but introduce some error margin due to bed or mount flex. I am satisfied with my FSR setup, but would certainly be interested in this system if I had no probing yet.

Edit:
Yeah, I can see that fitting the barballs to the effector is probably a bit more difficult...

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:31 pm
by dc42
I guess you could fit the barbells to the effector using a printed or machined adaptor piece.

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:50 am
by Renha
Except for the limit to magballs, there are even sadder limit to use e3d hotend

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:56 am
by dc42
Renha wrote:Except for the limit to magballs, there are even sadder limit to use e3d hotend
These are not limitations unless you have limited imagination - see my response to your post in the other thread.

What other widely-used hot end do you think we should have designed it to fit instead?

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:03 am
by Renha
I don't think you should, because E3D is kinda most widely-used. It's just me who want to use Diamond hotend with it, and my lack of skills to alter open source hardware except for mechanics makes me sad.

Sorry it looked like criticism, it wasn't intended.

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:10 pm
by dc42
I'm already looking at designing a version for a Diamond, because I would like to use one too. What do you think would be an appropriate rod spacing?

A version for the Cyclops has been requested too.

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:19 pm
by Renha
I'm a huge fan of tricklaser products, so I'll prefer to stick with SeeMe rod spacing, for example using these things https://www.seemecnc.com/collections/pa ... -joint-kit (did I understand question right?)

As for diamond, it would be great to have hotend above effectors, like I've done with tricklaser effector https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1128037 . What do you think? Is this possible with smart effector?

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:54 pm
by dc42
Yes the Diamond would need to be above the effector with the nozzle poking through a hole in the centre.

Re: PCB smart effector and carriage adapters for Haydn Huntley's rods

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:36 pm
by lordbinky
I'm using custom printed adapters on trick laser trucks (max metal) to pair it with an UMBEE. I want to note that the uniformity of spacing matching on the effectors to carriage mounts are brutally important, the result of the calculations still haunt me.

My max metal is doing great with an UMBEE effector, and if it weren't for the difference in rod spacing (45mm vs 55mm). I still love my magball arms and direct drive extruder, so if there's ever a version that works with the titan, I'd be all in.