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Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:34 am
by davidsf
Hello all,
I am assembling my Rostock MAX I bought at the Maker Faire, and I have found that the most excruciating part of this job has not been the actual hours spend building the printer, but the frustrating amount of time I have spent trying to match the screws and other small hardware that come in unlabeled plastic baggies to the ones manual refers to. For example, I am on the step of putting the screws in for the rambo (I am using the version 2 manual that is incomplete) and it says to use "four #4-40 socket head screws, four #4 flat washers and eight nylon spacers." This is great in all except for the fact that IT TAKES ME 20 MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHICH SCREWS ARE THE #4-40 SOCKET HEAD SCREWS BECAUSE THE KIT IS RIDDLED WITH A MILLION UNLABELED BAGGIES! Now I have come to wonder if there is a 2-6 page guide that tells you which parts are which. Does something like this exist? If not, How did you all deal with this when you all were assembling your printers? It is astounding that SeeMeCNC doesn't either label the baggies, or provide a sheet of paper that matches the names of the hardware with pictures of the baggies.

Thanks.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:46 am
by Eaglezsoar
davidsf wrote:Hello all,
I am assembling my Rostock MAX I bought at the Maker Faire, and I have found that the most excruciating part of this job has not been the actual hours spend building the printer, but the frustrating amount of time I have spent trying to match the screws and other small hardware that come in unlabeled plastic baggies to the ones manual refers to. For example, I am on the step of putting the screws in for the rambo (I am using the version 2 manual that is incomplete) and it says to use "four #4-40 socket head screws, four #4 flat washers and eight nylon spacers." This is great in all except for the fact that IT TAKES ME 20 MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHICH SCREWS ARE THE #4-40 SOCKET HEAD SCREWS BECAUSE THE KIT IS RIDDLED WITH A MILLION UNLABELED BAGGIES! Now I have come to wonder if there is a 2-6 page guide that tells you which parts are which. Does something like this exist? If not, How did you all deal with this when you all were assembling your printers? It is astounding that SeeMeCNC doesn't either label the baggies, or provide a sheet of paper that matches the names of the hardware with pictures of the baggies.

Thanks.
Perhaps these will help.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:57 am
by Polygonhell
If you sort out the few metric fasteners, and the sheet metal screws you're left with predominantly #6-32 and #4-40 (which are easily distinguished), and then it's just down to length, I eyeballed them then measured to check before I used them.
The one gotcha I think is that the bolts for the steppers are split between two packages, one with 12 for the bottom steppers and then 4 additional in the extruder packaging.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:09 pm
by geneb
Another gotcha is a change in some places from a socket head screw to a pan head. If you can't find the screw I specified _at all_, try looking for the same size/diameter in a pan head. If you find it, PLEASE let me know so I can update the docs!

g.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:53 pm
by davidsf
Thank you so much, Eaglezoar! SeeMeCNC should definitely put that in their kits.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:57 pm
by davidsf
If any of you have diagrams like the ones that Eaglezsoar posted showing the rest of the parts included in the kit, I would like to have them.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:24 pm
by davidsf
Geneb,
The screws used to install the idler bearings are pan head in my kit whereas in your manual they are socket head. Also I have a few things to recommend: Diagrams with arrows showing where screws, bearings, nuts ect. go, a detailed crimping lesson, and as I said before, pictures of the unlabeled parts in the manual as needed.

I really appreciate all the work you put into these manuals, thank you.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:35 pm
by sunkenbier
On page 58 of the doc I cannot find the 5/8" long #4 machine screws in that pic above. Man I wish the packages for the screws were labled or had numbers that the manual could refer to.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:47 pm
by cambo3d
sunkenbier wrote:On page 58 of the doc I cannot find the 5/8" long #4 machine screws in that pic above. Man I wish the packages for the screws were labled or had numbers that the manual could refer to.
maybe if you post a photo of all your hardware layed out, we can all play wheres waldo, in this case where's the 5/8" long #4 machine screws screws.

Re: Rostock MAX Assembly: Is there something I am missing?

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:12 pm
by geneb
sunkenbier wrote:On page 58 of the doc I cannot find the 5/8" long #4 machine screws in that pic above. Man I wish the packages for the screws were labled or had numbers that the manual could refer to.
You and me both. :)

g.