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Fixed: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:30 pm
by sandy
Given that I had a short and melted the wires clear back to the RAMBO power connector, I purchased a new RAMBO board.

I flashed it with my existing firmware, plugged everything in and something really weird is happening.

I run reptier on mac. When I test X - by commanding it to move 10mm it was fine. When I test Y the same way - it moves all 3 motors exactly a Z is supposed to do. When I test Z, it just moves itself.

If I run G28 *only* the Z motor works and the hot end crashes into the Z axis.

So I downloaded the current firmware from SeemeCNC's link, reflashed the board and it does the same thing.

I switched the Y and Z motors to their opposite connectors on the board (Y motor to the Z board socket, and Z to the Y socket) and the *same* problem. The move Y command moves all 3 motors the way Z is supposed to. The move Z command just moves that motor and G28 crashes into whatever axis is connected to the Z motor socket.

It's not the wiring, it's not the firmware, it's not a power problem. Any ideas? I'm so frustrated, I purchased this printer last march, and I've yet, to get a working print from it. (additionally, I can't afford to not get it working, but I can't afford to replace the whole thing, either)

RESOLUTION: It was the RAMBO Board.

After many tribulations, I finally asked SeemeCNC to just replace the board with one they had tested. They are great, so of course they agreed. New board works perfectly! I still have a lot of calibration to do, but I was able to get a very decent print of the PEEK FAN holder (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:40845)

Thank you, everyone who's been helping me here on this forum, and thanks to John at SeemeCNC!

-sandy

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:10 am
by lordbinky
That really seems like something in the software chain isn't set to a delta configuration....except for the moving X and Y worked correctly...

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:57 am
by sandy
Actually, Y isn't working properly. Any commands to Y move all 3 motors. The Y socket behaves as though it were the Z socket.

I would have suspected this was a firmware issue, but I've now tried 3 different copies of the Repetier-Max firmware. 1. The original copy that came w/ my printer in March, 2. The edited copy that was on my previous - working perfectly -RAMBO board and 3. a brand new copy downloaded from SeemeCNC's downloads link, yesterday.

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:11 am
by foshon
Are you sure they are connected properly? It sounds like would happen if you swapped the y motor for the z.

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:19 pm
by sandy
Yes, as I said in the first post, swapping them was the first test I did.

It doesn't matter which motor is connected to the Y socket on the RAMBO board, when you send a command to the Y socket - ALL motors move in unison exactly the way they are supposed to do(but are NOT doing) when a Z command is sent.

And, even if X motor is plugged into the Z socket, a G28 command sends the hot end crashing into the X - axis - because it is the only motor that moves

if Y motor is plugged into the Z socket, a G28 command sends the hot end crashing into the Y - axis -

if Z motor is plugged into the Z socket, a G28 command sends the hot end crashing into the Z - axis - because it is the only motor that moves

I thought maybe the pins were mislabeled in the firmware, but I've tried the firmware that was working with my old board, I re-unzipped the original firmware I downloaded from the seemecnc link last March, and the current firmware which I downloaded from the seemecnc link last night. The behavior is the same for all of them.

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:42 pm
by foshon
I'd say the board is bad then.

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:57 pm
by Broose
Did you verify that all of your limit switches are working correctly? If you are unable to home (G28) then its possible with limit switch issues on X and Y that the X and Y stages think they've hit the limit already, so only your Z would move. Also, trying to command moves before a proper homing sequence can end up with unpredictable results.

Re: Y motor command moves all 3 motors, Z just moves Z

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:44 pm
by lordbinky
If you adjust your firmware settings you can always swap the Z-tower's motor to a spare motor connection if it's just the driver chip for that connection that's bad.