Cartridge Heater Upgrade unable to maintain temp with fan on
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:19 pm
In addition to my continuing issue with leveling the bed through calibrating tower rotation (see other thread), I have been having a strange issue.
Previously I had been using two power resistors and a fan mounted between the X and Z rails on the platform (blowing directly on a spacer, not on the PEEK). Since I shorted out my thermistor in a failed print (4 months ago, found printer stalled dead in it's tracks, thermistor incorrecting rdeading 10C for room temperature, and discovered more inaccurate reading as I set temperature higher).
Since my crash I have done the following in the past month:
- Dismanteled the Platform and U-carriage on each cheapskate (Replaced the Delta Arms and U-carriages on each arm with new ones properly sanded to fit).
- Replaced 40mm fan with tiny 20x20x10mm fan I purchased from Amazon.com
- Installed a brand new 100k thermistor
- Replaced power resistors with a new cartridge heater from hotends.com
- Calibrated the Printer-Radius using the updated documentation
The cartridge heater heats up faster, I guess, but it's hard to tell since the last time I ran the printer before shorting the thermistor was 4 months ago!
I did not replace the Rambo 1.1 board, but it appears to be functioning properly. I can read proper room temperature, (19.7C according to the LCD), and it can maintain temperature when sitting still (not printing).
*HOWEVER* when printing anything, as soon as I begin layer 2 which includes a slight temperature change (from 215 to 205), and the fan kicks on (35%), I cannot maintain temperature! Even though the temperature is set to 205 and the temperature graph shows full power applied to the thermistor, it doesn't appear to have enough power to overcome the tiny 20x20mm fan!
Is this normal?
I have performed the PID Auto-Tune function twice since the massive upgrade, but both times the PEEK fan was off. Should I turn on the PEEK fan prior to running the PID autotune?
For what it's worth - I just timed my heat up on the hotend from 19.7C to 200C - Approximately 4 minutes with hotbed pre-heating concurrently.
Previously I had been using two power resistors and a fan mounted between the X and Z rails on the platform (blowing directly on a spacer, not on the PEEK). Since I shorted out my thermistor in a failed print (4 months ago, found printer stalled dead in it's tracks, thermistor incorrecting rdeading 10C for room temperature, and discovered more inaccurate reading as I set temperature higher).
Since my crash I have done the following in the past month:
- Dismanteled the Platform and U-carriage on each cheapskate (Replaced the Delta Arms and U-carriages on each arm with new ones properly sanded to fit).
- Replaced 40mm fan with tiny 20x20x10mm fan I purchased from Amazon.com
- Installed a brand new 100k thermistor
- Replaced power resistors with a new cartridge heater from hotends.com
- Calibrated the Printer-Radius using the updated documentation
The cartridge heater heats up faster, I guess, but it's hard to tell since the last time I ran the printer before shorting the thermistor was 4 months ago!
I did not replace the Rambo 1.1 board, but it appears to be functioning properly. I can read proper room temperature, (19.7C according to the LCD), and it can maintain temperature when sitting still (not printing).
*HOWEVER* when printing anything, as soon as I begin layer 2 which includes a slight temperature change (from 215 to 205), and the fan kicks on (35%), I cannot maintain temperature! Even though the temperature is set to 205 and the temperature graph shows full power applied to the thermistor, it doesn't appear to have enough power to overcome the tiny 20x20mm fan!
Is this normal?
I have performed the PID Auto-Tune function twice since the massive upgrade, but both times the PEEK fan was off. Should I turn on the PEEK fan prior to running the PID autotune?
For what it's worth - I just timed my heat up on the hotend from 19.7C to 200C - Approximately 4 minutes with hotbed pre-heating concurrently.