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Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:08 pm
by mrbdrm
On a scale of 1-10 how hard is it to convert EZstruder (if possible) to traditional one?
did anyone did it before?
i am asking this because some type of filament does not work well with the bowden style extruder and i am trying to not buy a new printer

Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:56 am
by Renha
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:35 am
by mrbdrm
That looks scary, the hanging style

but it still is bowden and it will jam the extruder with rubber filament
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:02 am
by bubbasnow
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:02 pm
by Nylocke
The flying extruder/air extruder was designed to shorten the bowden tube length to eliminate any potential issues with filament jamming/retraction, I don't think you'll run into jamming issues with it... People have printed Ninjaflex on a stock Orion...
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:13 pm
by mrbdrm
Nylocke wrote:The flying extruder/air extruder was designed to shorten the bowden tube length to eliminate any potential issues with filament jamming/retraction, I don't think you'll run into jamming issues with it... People have printed Ninjaflex on a stock Orion...
the QU-BD setup looks great, but i don't think my skill are enough without some guide.
i was able to print with ninjaflex but you must check the print all the time since it may stuck in the extruder and that happened with me a lot and you must print really slow (10-15)
i am actually surprised that its not a mod a lot of you guys did.
will an hour ago i placed an order for the new printerbot plus lets see how it will go.

Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:30 pm
by bubbasnow
i print ninjaflex just fine, slowing down the printer is alot cheaper than ordering a new printer just for 1 type of filament.
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:40 pm
by Nylocke
Any printer you gotta print slow with any flexible filament, Bowden or Direct drive. This is just a thing with the filament. You're not saving yourself money or speed by getting a different printer...
Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:05 pm
by mrbdrm
bubbasnow wrote:i print ninjaflex just fine, slowing down the printer is alot cheaper than ordering a new printer just for 1 type of filament.
i couldn't make it print good quality with the ninja

jamming and layer adhesion too
and it's not the only reason i wanted a new printer, knowledge and education
one printer is never enough, don't you agree

Re: Question (orion): fiting traditional extruder
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:00 pm
by Eaglezsoar
mrbdrm wrote:bubbasnow wrote:i print ninjaflex just fine, slowing down the printer is alot cheaper than ordering a new printer just for 1 type of filament.
i couldn't make it print good quality with the ninja

jamming and layer adhesion too
and it's not the only reason i wanted a new printer, knowledge and education
one printer is never enough, don't you agree

I agree that one printer is never enough, and if have a strong need to print the Ninja filaments and have the money, they god bless you and
go for the new printer. It seems that non bowden cartesians still have a limited place in the market.