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PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:16 pm
by Tinker12
Hi,
I'm printing some small parts to be submerged in tap water for long periods, months to years. I want to know if I use
PLA to make these parts, will they degrade or change over time. I have read that PLA absorbs moisture from the air.
Does anyone have experience with this or recommendations. I plan to buy some T-Glase filament and try also.

Thanks

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:23 pm
by bubbasnow
are you wanting these items to be water tight?

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:44 pm
by Tinker12
no, they don't need to be watertight.

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:52 pm
by Polygonhell
Technically PLA is biodegradable, but my understanding is it requires both heat and moisture for there to be any real effect.
My guess is it would probably be fine, but I don't know of anyone who has tested it.
ABS would be fine, as would nylon or TGlass, so I'm not sure it's worth the risk.

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:09 pm
by Tinker12
Thanks for the feedback,
just for fun, and trying to post photos, are the parts, these are a bit off as the infill is not joining the perimeter, the latest ones are better.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/123952550@N03/
[img]https://www.flickr.com/photos/123952550@N03/[/img]

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:49 pm
by mhackney
I've had 2 of my tenkara line holders submerged in room temp water and there is no noticeable change.

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:43 pm
by McSlappy
PLA is a bioplastic, but as far as general use is concerned just think of it as a regular plastic with a low glass transition temperature (go-soft-temp in technical terms). Companies use it every day for holding liquids with no issues as it's not water soluble (plastic cups and plastic meat trays are common). I wouldn't be afraid to use it submerged.
I say that, but it depends on what sort of water you're putting it into - my dad got some PTC fittings for his pool and the plastic fell to pieces within a month, but that's from the chlorine not water.

@Mhackney, how does PLA hold up in salt water - are the line holders in salt or fresh?

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:03 am
by precisionpete
I printed some covers for sink pop ups that get hot & cold water on them. In use for ~ 3 weeks now without any noticeable degradation.
Printed in white pla & t-glas.

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:21 am
by mhackney
I'm only testing in fresh water but that's a good question about salt water. Time to setup another test!

cheers,
Michael

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:18 pm
by McSlappy
Sorry, I've just made more work for you :/

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:20 pm
by mhackney
No worries, at least it's quick to set up!

Re: PLA exposure to water

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:02 pm
by bubbasnow
mhackney wrote:I'm only testing in fresh water but that's a good question about salt water. Time to setup another test!

cheers,
Michael
be sure to get your salinity right!... if you live next to the salt lake like i do, it can be anywhere to 4-8 times the salinity of the ocean.....home to two types of species.. brine shrimp and brine fly.. blah... blah .... blah... Ive listened to the AM info channel tooo many times