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Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:19 pm
by BONE
My Rostock MAX is coming the mail tomorrow and I have concern about cats being curious about the build and eventually running machine. I have an area for the build and plan temporally build a cardboard fort on my desk to protect the build while at work. Then keep the cats and cat hair away from the printer, I would like build an enclosure around the printer, to act as a cat shield and thermal chamber. Just looking for some advice on both as I build the machine.
I've already thought about getting rid of the cats, but the GF will not have it. Other comments are most welcome.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:21 pm
by enggmaug
Let the cat play with the hot end... while it's hot.
He won't play no more, and even keep safety distance. That is not cruel, that is teaching through experience.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:29 pm
by BONE
enggmaug wrote:Let the cat play with the hot end... while it's hot.
He won't play no more, and even keep safety distance. That is not cruel, that is teaching through experience.
I like that idea, I've learned not to touch many things that way myself. I'm looking to keep cat hair out of the printer, more then the cat it self. Looking for some good ideas.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:37 pm
by Jimustanguitar
You just have to surround your machine with water somehow...
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:47 pm
by Eric
Depends on the cat. I once had an orange tabby that loved water. He used to jump in the shower while I was using it, at least until the day he slipped on the edge of the tub and tumbled in head-first. That memory still makes me giggle 20 years later.
Besides, if the moat wasn't at least 10 feet wide, the cat could just jump over it. Closing the door to the room is way easier.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:52 pm
by Captain Starfish
Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:56 pm
by Eaglezsoar
Captain Starfish wrote:Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
You don't really mean that! I feel I know you well enough that you would not abuse an animal and are just joking.
I agree with Jim, just close the door.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:26 am
by astroboy907
The solution is simple.
Attach weight bearing hooks to the ceiling, and then simply hang the printer with 100lb rated line in the center of the room. Your calibration may vary.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:45 am
by Captain Starfish
Eaglezsoar wrote:Captain Starfish wrote:Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
You don't really mean that! I feel I know you well enough that you would not abuse an animal and are just joking.
I agree with Jim, just close the door.

Well done.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:00 am
by McSlappy
Captain Starfish wrote:Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
It might have something to do with our national pastime of disliking cats... They're pretty bad for the native animals you know

Not that I'd condone hurting a cat (I like cats individually), as a species they're jolly destructive.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:07 am
by astroboy907
McSlappy wrote:
It might have something to do with our national pastime of disliking cats... They're pretty bad for the native animals you know

Not that I'd condone hurting a cat (I like cats individually), as a species they're jolly destructive.
How about those rabbits?

Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:41 am
by Eric
astroboy907 wrote:McSlappy wrote:
It might have something to do with our national pastime of disliking cats... They're pretty bad for the native animals you know

Not that I'd condone hurting a cat (I like cats individually), as a species they're jolly destructive.
How about those rabbits?

My cats loved chasing rabbits. Fortunately, wild rabbits are usually alert enough and fast enough to get away.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:10 am
by Captain Starfish
Of course, in Western Australia the rabbits hunt the cats.
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The ones that haven't been eaten by the spiders, anyway...
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:31 am
by DocHogan
Eaglezsoar wrote:Captain Starfish wrote:Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
You don't really mean that! I feel I know you well enough that you would not abuse an animal and are just joking.
I agree with Jim, just close the door.
According to Ambrose Bearce's "Devil's Dictionary":
Ambrose Bearce wrote:CAT, n. A soft, indestructible automaton provided by nature to be kicked when things go wrong in the domestic circle.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/972/972-h/972-h.htm
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:46 am
by BONE
Eaglezsoar wrote:Captain Starfish wrote:Replace water with acid. Another one of those teaching-through-experience things.
You don't really mean that! I feel I know you well enough that you would not abuse an animal and are just joking.
I agree with Jim, just close the door.
The litter box is in the same room. Not an option in another room due to layout and roommates.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:02 pm
by Mike B
BONE,
Maybe you can do something like the shower curtain mod I discussed here ..
http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?p=44366#p44366
I've been using it for a while and it works great for keeping the heat in and the kids / pets / nosy neighbors and others out!
Another benefit is it is CHEAP , just make sure you get a good quality liner for about $10, not one of the cheap $2.00 ones.
Mike
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:35 pm
by BONE
Mike, I saw that and I think I'm going to do version of that. I think I'm going to build stand offs like on this machine.
http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=5695 I just want to much the curtain does not rub the cheapskates. Do you have video of yours running? How much does it rub?
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:07 pm
by Mike B
I don't have a video right now, but can make one and post tonight if you want. The way I have it set up, the shower curtain is attached to the top and hangs down past the build plate but loose and not attached at the bottom.
It is tight enough to keep drafts and critters out.
It is silent when running there is no crinkling. The cheapskates may barely touch, but if so it is has never caused any issues for me. I am going to make a second one of these for my new Max tonight and can post a video and photos if you'd like.
I really considered an acrylic or lexan box type enclosure before doing this, but I really didn't want the hassle of the extra bulk around my workbench and definitely didn't want to have to lift anything up and over. I like this because even with the curtain fastened closed and the bed heating or hot, I can still reach underneath or through the front opening and calibrate or pull hanging filament from the nozzle without opening a door and letting cool air in.
Mike
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:49 pm
by BONE
I always in enjoy pics and vids, it's what makes the thread come alive.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:27 pm
by Mike B
Here is a video while printing with the curtain..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRrb_3bmGzA
I don't know how to embed video here, but it is on youtube..
Hope it helps!
Mike
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:59 pm
by BONE
Nice job! Looks I'm going that route then.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:09 am
by Leithan
Nice!, I have been trying to come up with a way to enclose my printer when its done, I read your first post about using the shower curtain and I guess I wasn't picturing it correctly in my head. This looks way easier and cheaper than anything I have come up with so far.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:29 am
by travelphotog
I have been looking around here and found a few good idea that got me thinking a bit. I am needing to completely enclose the build area and in the end the filament area also for printing in PC and Nylons. I have been doing some work in Solidworks and tonight I am printing out the beta pieces for fitting.. I have not finished putting the render together (it takes almost more time then designing the stuff in the first place) but below is a peek at the render and some pieces dry fitted for measurements.. I know not everyone wants a full enclosure of this style. But thought I would throw in my two cents worth.
For my needs I am also doing a complete environmental control system with an Arduino, dehumidifier and heating and venting system. But I am making sure that aspect is modular so if not needed it can work with it an keep overall cost down.

- printing out and fitting beta pieces. Still a WIP

- The render is not yet finished. but you get the idea. Top section is pretty much a mirror of bottom.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:53 am
by BONE
That looks good. What are you using for the sides. I'm thinking about doing the same thing to space a plastic wrap away from the frame a little.
Re: Cat Shield and Thermal Chamber
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:09 am
by travelphotog
going with Plexiglas sheets to seal it in. I should have another render tonight.