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Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:24 am
by brent
The Form1 and other commercial-grade SLA/SLS printers have a parts cleaning station to clean off the resin/residue from the part.
Let's make one for the DropLit.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:28 am
by brent
Pictures of other cleaning solutions that exist:
Form Finish Kit
*Includes: Rinse Tubs, Rinse Basket, Flush Cutters, Microfiber Cloth, Tweezers, Squeeze Bottle, Scraper
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http://cdni.wired.co.uk/620x413/d_f/form1-11.jpg[/img]
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http://formlabs.com/media/upload/_thumb ... x0_q85.png[/img]
3D Systems ProClean
Brochure:
http://www.3dsystems.com/products/dataf ... _0804a.pdf
Patent:
https://www.google.com/patents/US5143663
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:36 am
by brent
Ideas I have for this:
Quick&Dirty
Desc: Small tupperware container half-filled with Isopropyl alcohol. Part gets submerged.
Pros: Helps clean the part, formlabs uses a similar method, works properly
Cons: Takes a long time
Ultrasonic
Desc: Uses ultrasonic transducers to clean parts using frequencies.
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http://www.ctgclean.com/blog/wp-content ... -fig17.gif[/img]
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Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:36 am
by brent
This community has worked together in the past to build some great things, let's work on this.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:45 pm
by Polygonhell
You can buy cheap ultrasonic tanks for ~$30 the only real restriction the cheap ones have is limited runtime (usually less than 10 minutes per cycle) and overall size.
A curing station using one of the available nail ovens modified to deal with larger items wouldn't be a bad addition.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:51 pm
by Mac The Knife
So, a can of brake cleaner isn't going to work.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:49 pm
by johnoly99
Mac The Knife wrote:So, a can of brake cleaner isn't going to work.
Oh it'll work alright! Too Good prob.!
Polygonhell, yes, sgraber was talking about a nail drying lamp from wally world for a post process curing box today. Good ideas
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:08 pm
by Jimustanguitar
I'm going to build a 100(ish) watt ultrasonic cleaner soon. My intended use was for motorcycle carbs, but I'll definitely make an instructable or something to share the project with everybody.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:18 pm
by teoman
Please do share.
I am also interested in ultrasonics for making biodiesel. Also you can add water to your fuel and mix it with ultrasound.
What motorbike?
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:20 pm
by teoman
Std halogens emit quite a bit of UV. For etching pcbs I remember that an uc ligt was not necessary if you had a high wattage halogen lamp.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:37 pm
by Jimustanguitar
teoman wrote:What motorbike?
I've got some old Yamaha's. An XS400RJ Seca and an XZ550R Vision. Also got an '08 Buell 1125r.
I've been using my wife's jewelry cleaner in the garage quite a bit. I had to secretly replace it once when I melted the plastic lid shut cleaning parts with acetone

Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:24 pm
by Mac The Knife
Had an XS1100. Living in Louisiana at the time, I was able to enjoy it year round.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:04 am
by teoman
I have a BMW R1200GS. Living in Istanbul it can get fairly exciting at times.
Anyhow, enough of my hijack and back to the thread.
Not sure if it is related to the light based technologies but I am looking at sandblasting. There is a youtube video or a thread that I read recently that I cannot find right now. The parts did look surprisingly nice.
A dentist friend has a 2k usd micro sandblaster. He uses it with baking soda and a form of aluminum oxide.
I will get the chance to fondle it next week and I will report back. He also says that there are 100 usd versions around.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:59 am
by Jimustanguitar
You could look at soda blasting too. It's less destructive than sandblasting because it's not abrasive in the same way.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:02 pm
by geneb
It wouldn't be that difficult to rebuild a cheap Chinese UV EEPROM eraser into a UV curing box for these parts.
Something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-NEW-UV-ULT ... 53f6ae6c79
Just rob the guts out of it and put in your own enclosure. It even has a little timer.

The bulb is a UV flourescent.
g.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:10 pm
by guanu
or, buy something like this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/SensatioNail- ... p/27830742 and it HAS a timer... and wouldnt need to mod anything, toss part in, and cure..
Guanu
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:22 pm
by geneb
That's pretty neat. I'll have to get one. I'll need to paint it black and put some Hackaday stickers on it though. *laughs*
g.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:36 am
by johnoly99
^^^^
WIN
That could be your hackaday prize entry?
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:40 am
by sgraber
In general, I would not recommend sonication cleaning as it can degrade and/or break your parts. General cleaning in 70%-100% isopropyl alcohol (swishing around for a while) is the recommended procedure.
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:30 pm
by artexmg
I am NOT AN EXPERT AT ALL, but I had read that a nail curing station uses "near UV" LED, which have a wave length with too much Yellow-ish components (am I right?). In any case, that curing at that wave length will make your transparent resin look yellowish, just like if you put it in the sun rays. If you want to use LEDs, and avoid the yellowish finish, then you have to use short wave lengths, within the UV range (not "near UV"). Those are expensive!
Better use a regular and cheaper UV bulb instead of LED.
I made my curing station with an UV bulb, the cardboard box were it was shipped (yes, I am cheap!), plus aluminum foil and a thick book at the top ... boom!
Of course, if you are using colored resin, or you are going to pain your transparent one, it just doesn't mater.
Cheers!
Re: Parts Cleaner
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:50 pm
by teoman
Soda blasting had a very very minimal effect. It would take you rens of hours to do an average print. He did not want to use the aluminum oxide stuff as it damaged his equipment once.