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Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:18 pm
by dunginhawk
So i am about 8 hours in to my build.. Things have been going well so far...
When it comes time to tie down the wires on the top of the machine, it appears my board is off from the picture...
So here is what it says to do
[img]http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m562/dunginhawk/Capture_zps8a7ea167.jpg[/img]

THis is what the top of mine looks like... is this a change that was made but not put in the instructions? or did i do something wrong?
I have stopped for now until i correct this... I dont want to get too far and have to tear it apart.

[img]http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m562/dunginhawk/1842705B-33FE-49E5-9CC9-BC2C53E96AEB_zpsh6mneqrm.jpg[/img]

as you notice where the tie downs are (down in both pics) i dont have wires running at all.
In my upload X is at the top, Z is bottom right, and Y is bottom left.


thanks all

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:20 pm
by Jimustanguitar
There's no reason that you can't rotate the top or flip it over.

It's inconsequential though. Just make sure that the spool holder will go where you want it in the end.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:25 pm
by dunginhawk
I would definately rather not rip it apart if i can help it... so you are saying the only thing that will be different will be that the spool holder may not be there it normally be.... That shouldnt matter thought right?
Rotating this wouldnt work, because if you notice the two larger circles about 1/3 of the way to the middle, are off as well, meaning the board has to be flipped... or would be in the perfect install.
it would be a LOT of work to go back and flip it..
do you think i can avoid that?

thank you for the quick responses.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:47 pm
by dunginhawk
OK... now it seems i may have to do something.
So now when i go to mount the extruder piece, no matter which of the 2 options I use, the hole where the filament comes through, is on the opposite side of the extruder.

as seen here,
[img]http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m562/dunginhawk/F9680BA6-C81E-4F4B-A78E-82A1771740B7_zpsew0wgnpu.jpg[/img]

so you see the hole is on the left, and the extruder is on the right...

i may cry

could i just drill a new hole? :)

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:09 pm
by guanu
your top plate is actually how I build them here... just flip your extruder around so it looks like this.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/seemecnc/ ... /lightbox/
then for the spool holder, assemble it so it looks like this.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/seemecnc/ ... /lightbox/

so you only need to take off the 2 nuts that hold the extruder on and put it on the other way of the wood mount...

Guanu

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:02 pm
by dunginhawk
ok... the next issue im running in to...
first, the guide never told me to put the black and red (thin) wires in the mesh, so that sucks.
secondly, those red and black thin wires are shown in some of the pictures in the guides, but i read through the whole thing and i dont ever see them being used...
id love some help to figure this out.
thanks

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:13 pm
by dunginhawk
ok, so i fished those thin wires down with some sodder as a makeshift fish tape... now i gotta figure out what to do with them :)

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:46 pm
by Earthbound
I missed getting the little the red/black wires into the mesh on the first try, too. But in Gene's defense, the instructions (pg 147) show them and the text just says "hot end wires" which meant heater, thermistor, and fan wires.

I also made the mistake you show in your first post, with the lower top plate upside down. I caught it a little earlier and chose to back up and flip it right-side up. But, as has been said, you can just modify other construction to place the EZ Struder and spool to match.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 5:52 pm
by geneb
The top plate can be installed either way. Originally, I was going to make the 2nd edition build match Andy's production build, but by the time I remembered about that, I was too far and wasn't going to re-shoot a whole pile of photos. :)

g.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:16 pm
by QuantumTitan
I actually just ran into this problem now( the top plate not being in the orientation it later shows in the guide). It's not unlikely that I would have made a mistake, but I had to make sure I wasn't going crazy. The problem seems to stem from the orientation shown on pg.121 where the top plate is shown with the end switch tie downs straddling the Y tower and then once you get to pg.128 where you are actually tying down the end switch wires, the tie down points are straddling the X tower like they should be.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:50 pm
by bot
And the tie downs are ultimately the only thing lost by having the "incorrect" orientation. I'm sure most people have it this way. I do. I just taped wires down instead of tying them... I actually like the placement of the extruder better with this orientation.

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:29 am
by guanu
actually everything lines up the way it was intended.... when I build them here, endstop wires go down Y tower, hotend down X and extruder down Z... the top plate the way I build em here is the way it was originally drawn... it still works either way

Guanu

Re: Building my rostock.. First issue.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:10 am
by geneb
The way the top plate is designed, there really is no actually wrong side up. The 2nd Edition is more clear as to what you're after though. That being said, the orientation in the 2nd Ed. follows the 1st and not Guanu's orientation of the part. It was my intention to follow his, but sh*t happened and I didn't catch the mistake until it was too late to go back without having to disassemble and redo a LOT of work.

g.