Varying Print Quality

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Varying Print Quality

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Hello everyone,

I have been trying to print this model (Specifically, the torso portion), but have been getting somewhat mixed results.

When I scale the object up 2 times its original size, I get this result.

The original model doesn't seem to be printing much better. Here is an image of that.

However, the vase that comes with the printer seems to be printing with no difficulty. It comes out perfecly!

I am not sure if there is something misconfigured on the printer or if the gcode was bad. I am using the matters control slicer for all these models.

Here is the bottom of the smaller torso. Looks kind of odd as well.

Thanks for any guidance.
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Sorry for the late response.
I think you have the Orion printer.
Have you downloaded the Max V2 manual and perform the calibration steps found in that manual?
It seems you are badly misaligned.
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Yes, I have an Orion. I haven't downloaded the manual for the RockStock yet. I will go through the calibrations tomorrow. I previously leveled the towers based on the guide, but the right tower's screw is as far down as it will go and it's still misaligned. I will see if I can follow the guide and resolve the issue.
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You can use the eeprom instead of the screws.

Also. Screw positions are relative. Instead of raising a screw you can lower the other 2. And restart calibrattion. This will have the effect of the screw raised plus some Z offset
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teoman wrote:You can use the eeprom instead of the screws.

Also. Screw positions are relative. Instead of raising a screw you can lower the other 2. And restart calibrattion. This will have the effect of the screw raised plus some Z offset
Not sure what you mean. I tried to lowering the other two screws quite a bit, but the Y tower scree still hits the glass pretty hard. The others towers are fine. I was turning the other two screws clockwise to raise the platform.

It feels like the Z and Y towers are fine. The center also feels fine. Would some combination of eeprom and the set screws solve my problem?
Eaglezsoar wrote:Sorry for the late response.
I think you have the Orion printer.
Have you downloaded the Max V2 manual and perform the calibration steps found in that manual?
It seems you are badly misaligned.
I downloaded the manual and started going through the calibrations. I created the macros. They are definitely easier than using the towers.gcode file to align the towers.

I also made a post on reddit to see if they had any recommendations. Should I check any of the things they are recommending?
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Let us know what Reddit recommends and we can ascertain if you should check what they recommend.
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Eaglezsoar wrote:Let us know what Reddit recommends and we can ascertain if you should check what they recommend.
One of the things was the belt tightness. I am not sure how tight they are supposed to be, but one of the posters thought they were too lose.

The second response was that my motors might be skipping. I did a quick check of one of the belts to see if it has any teeth stripped off. It looked fine.
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bryantp wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote:Let us know what Reddit recommends and we can ascertain if you should check what they recommend.
One of the things was the belt tightness. I am not sure how tight they are supposed to be, but one of the posters thought they were too lose.

The second response was that my motors might be skipping. I did a quick check of one of the belts to see if it has any teeth stripped off. It looked fine.
Both reasonable troubleshooting suggestions.
Have you made any progress in calibrating your Orion?
There is also a calibration guide in V2 of the Orion Manual which is here: http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=4186
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Eaglezsoar wrote:
bryantp wrote:
Eaglezsoar wrote:Let us know what Reddit recommends and we can ascertain if you should check what they recommend.
One of the things was the belt tightness. I am not sure how tight they are supposed to be, but one of the posters thought they were too lose.

The second response was that my motors might be skipping. I did a quick check of one of the belts to see if it has any teeth stripped off. It looked fine.
Both reasonable troubleshooting suggestions.
Have you made any progress in calibrating your Orion?
There is also a calibration guide in V2 of the Orion Manual which is here: http://forum.seemecnc.com/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=4186

Sorry for the late response. Tis a busy month.

I went through the guide and set the Z-Height correctly. I then proceeded to check the heights at the center and all the towers. So far these are the results:
  1. Center Tower - OK
  2. X-Tower - OK
  3. Y-Tower - Low, Hits Glass. Screw is tight
  4. Z-Tower - Low, Hits Glass. Screw is tight
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One of the suggestions above was to adjust the other screws to fix this, but I am not sure exactly what to do with them. I can't adjust the other two tower screws clockwise anymore as they are down all the way.
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Unscrew all three screws 4 or 5 turns out, and then reset your z height. from there you will have enough screw adjustment to calibrate each tower.
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Mac The Knife wrote:Unscrew all three screws 4 or 5 turns out, and then reset your z height. from there you will have enough screw adjustment to calibrate each tower.

That worked, and I was able to get them to work. However, I ran into another issue.

I set the Z-Height by following the doc, but when I told the printer to lower the head to 0Z, the head hit the glass instead of stopping right above it. Is it possible that the belts are slipping? I have hit the glass hard a couple of times. Could that strip the teeth on the belts?
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