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Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:50 am
by BenTheRighteous
I just discovered that a relative of mine won 300kg of acetal copolymer pellets at an auction. To my neanderthal brain, that sounds like it might be similar to ABS. Are these pellets something that I could look into running through a Filastruder and then through my Max, or is this idea a total non-starter?

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:54 am
by Eaglezsoar
Ben, the best I can say is to read the 1st page of Filastruder's site, it discusses which pellets you can use. http://www.filastruder.com/products/filastruder-kit

They do not mention ACP pellets so even they may not know if their machine can extrude the pellets. I would leave them a message at http://www.filastruder.com/pages/contact-us

I wish I could be of more help but that ACP plastic must be highly exotic. Please let us know what Filastruder tells you.

EDIT....There is a forum of Filastruder where they discuss Acetal http://www.soliforum.com/search/682555332/

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:43 am
by lasermike
also, Acetal smoke and fumes are actually toxic. beyond smelling bad. would not recommend without very good ventilation.

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:25 am
by JFettig
formaldehyde probably isn't a good thing to inhale :)

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:34 pm
by Nylocke
E3d sells Derlin (Acetal, POM) Filament. Sounds like its not that fun to print with;
it extrudes cleanly and easily from our hotends at around 250C and adheres well to lower layers.
However our tests have been hampered by the fact that POM is so slippery and getting it to stick to the bed is very very hard! We have had limited success
- See more at: http://e3d-online.com/Filament/By-Mater ... Xk8RT.dpuf
and
When melting POM there is the potential for the emission of harmful gasses such as formaldehyde. Although we have not experienced notable offgassing in our limited testing you should take appropriate precautions for protecting yourself and others from this possibility. This is an experimental product and it is your responsibility ensure you use it safely. - See more at: http://e3d-online.com/Filament/By-Mater ... t0nep.dpuf

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:10 pm
by critical_limit
I tested the POM Filament from E3D. It´s ok through the E3D-V6 Hotend.

But it´s sticking to nothing. Not to PEI, not to glass, not to Tape. Nothing.
Doesn´t matter which Bed Temperature. Gave up on this POM thing

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:20 pm
by Nylocke

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:39 pm
by critical_limit
A mate will give me a Delrin plate (100x100mm) 5mm thickness. As soon as I have it, I will check if this is working.

Thanx for the links. Maybe worth a try.

Re: Acetal copolymer

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:42 pm
by Nylocke
The first one is if you can use a double sided tape to tape it to glass or something (assuming the acetal sheet isn't flat). The second is more garolite-esque. Secure it down with binder clips. Of course I don't know how flat it is, and the thickness tolerance is kinda poor (+.6mm -.2mm I think). Maybe if you were to machine it flat and to a uniform thickness it would work, but that defeats the purpose of a premade solution.