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Hi all - new to the forum - just received my Max V2 kit the other day - Won't be able to start building until the end of the month - but I have already decided I will upgrade it as I build it up..

I'm going to install; an E3D V6 hot end into it right from the start so I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if I will need any specific parts beforehand for the new hot end?

Bearing in mind that I won't be able to print them myself as I'm installing it as part of the build - where do I get any part needed for this upgrade?

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Fabio wrote:Hi all - new to the forum - just received my Max V2 kit the other day - Won't be able to start building until the end of the month - but I have already decided I will upgrade it as I build it up..

I'm going to install; an E3D V6 hot end into it right from the start so I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if I will need any specific parts beforehand for the new hot end?

Bearing in mind that I won't be able to print them myself as I'm installing it as part of the build - where do I get any part needed for this upgrade?

many thanks

Fabs' :)
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You make also want to use their Cork gaskets that fit between the stepper and the wood to help minimize noise.
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Why the desire to upgrade to a different hotend immediately?

My stock one is serving me really well. The resistors completed their lifecycle after 45 days of continuous printing at which point replacing them was easy.

Unless you want to start printing nylon immediately i would hold back a bit.

Is this your first printer?
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You will need to change the firmware so that you can heat the E3D to 300ºc

#define MAXTEMP 300
#define MIN_DEFECT_TEMPERATURE -10
#define MAX_DEFECT_TEMPERATURE 300

I did that at least, don't know if I missed something.
But I agree with teoman. If it's your first printer stay with the stock hot end, is very good.
Or at least just change the hot end heater for a cartridge one.
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I've ordered the E3D already - being UK made and living in the UK it's relatively inexpensive to get hold of one considering - It just makes sense to me that Instead of building the unit and then having to disassemble and modify and recalibrate in about a month or so (worst case scenario) - it would be logical to build it right from the get go with the E3D hot end and then there would be no limitations to printing materials (within reason obviously) as compared to the stock hot end which could be relegated to the parts box as an emergency hot end replacement should it ever be needed.. and I've ordered a hot end 40w cartridge for it as well should the need arise - (been difficult find a screw mounted thermistor though in the UK presently) - though I reckon you could adapt the stock hot end to fit the thermistor the same way E3D do with a little bit of work :)

Yes I am new to the 3D printing scene as far as hands on Knowledge is concerned - but I've been professionally modelling for 3D printing for a few years now - it's time I get some hands on experience and returns from some in house equipment :) - (especially considering the demise of the last few patents and the good tech that will appear in a year or two a sa result) and I'm fairly handy as I have electrical / electronic experience to Grade 2 HND from my distant past coupled to about 20 years of building PC's and other equipment semi professionally - coupled to the fact I'm a stubborn sod when it comes to learning new things - which is a good thing I suppose ;)

I'm very much looking forward to the project when I can get started :) I'm currently scouring these forums and making notes diligently in preparation
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Fabio wrote:I've ordered the E3D already - being UK made and living in the UK it's relatively inexpensive to get hold of one considering - It just makes sense to me that Instead of building the unit and then having to disassemble and modify and recalibrate in about a month or so (worst case scenario) - it would be logical to build it right from the get go with the E3D hot end and then there would be no limitations to printing materials (within reason obviously) as compared to the stock hot end which could be relegated to the parts box as an emergency hot end replacement should it ever be needed.. and I've ordered a hot end 40w cartridge for it as well should the need arise - (been difficult find a screw mounted thermistor though in the UK presently) - though I reckon you could adapt the stock hot end to fit the thermistor the same way E3D do with a little bit of work :)

Yes I am new to the 3D printing scene as far as hands on Knowledge is concerned - but I've been professionally modelling for 3D printing for a few years now - it's time I get some hands on experience and returns from some in house equipment :) - (especially considering the demise of the last few patents and the good tech that will appear in a year or two a sa result) and I'm fairly handy as I have electrical / electronic experience to Grade 2 HND from my distant past coupled to about 20 years of building PC's and other equipment semi professionally - coupled to the fact I'm a stubborn sod when it comes to learning new things - which is a good thing I suppose ;)

I'm very much looking forward to the project when I can get started :) I'm currently scouring these forums and making notes diligently in preparation
Your decision to use the E3D makes sense to me especially when you live in the UK. One of the good things about this forum is you get a diversified opinions and you get to decide which one fits your needs, if any.
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Upgrade your power supply to 600w or better with dual 12V rails; one of the first upgrades I would suggest is the belt tensioners(I just put mine on this weekend and they are awesome). I would suggest making all your connections to your hot end with quick disconnect plugs of some kind or another. It just makes it easier to remove and put back for what ever reason you may have.

The reality is that the kit you bought is FRICKIN' AWESOME MAN! I love mine and have only done upgrades because its all just so cool! Printing upgrade parts, printing Nick Nacks for the kids, designing useful tools...I just love this stuff!
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Neptune wrote:Upgrade your power supply to 600w or better with dual 12V rails; one of the first upgrades I would suggest is the belt tensioners(I just put mine on this weekend and they are awesome). I would suggest making all your connections to your hot end with quick disconnect plugs of some kind or another. It just makes it easier to remove and put back for what ever reason you may have.

The reality is that the kit you bought is FRICKIN' AWESOME MAN! I love mine and have only done upgrades because its all just so cool! Printing upgrade parts, printing Nick Nacks for the kids, designing useful tools...I just love this stuff!
I agree! Love the printer and making anything you can imagine. You will have a blast!!

Neptune, I orinted my tensioners but didn't get them installed have to quit printing to do that!!! Awesome that they work well. :D
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Neptune wrote:Upgrade your power supply to 600w or better with dual 12V rails;
Do you have any suggestions for one that'll do the job? I take it it's more useful to have the one rail going to the heated bed and the other to the hot end (amongst others) any preference for power splitting and sharing re: the separate rails?
Neptune wrote: one of the first upgrades I would suggest is the belt tensioners(I just put mine on this weekend and they are awesome). I would suggest making all your connections to your hot end with quick disconnect plugs of some kind or another. It just makes it easier to remove and put back for what ever reason you may have.

sounds good - tell me more! Being a car and bike nut and owning and maintaining - I know tensioners are my friend - it's something that occurred to me as I read through the assembly manual the first few times that tensioners would be a great add-on ;)

When I build it up I'd really like to add all the super useful modifications right from the start :)
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Fabio wrote:
Neptune wrote:Upgrade your power supply to 600w or better with dual 12V rails;
Do you have any suggestions for one that'll do the job? I take it it's more useful to have the one rail going to the heated bed and the other to the hot end (amongst others) any preference for power splitting and sharing re: the separate rails?)
I just used a Thermaltake 600W power supply in mine. I has a 24Amp 12V rail and a 20Amp 12V rail. I didn't specify which rail went to which heating element(that I was aware of, although the larger gauge wires went to the bed). Anyways the available power is over double the standard 450W 18Amp single rail that came with my kit.
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Neptune wrote: one of the first upgrades I would suggest is the belt tensioners(I just put mine on this weekend and they are awesome). I would suggest making all your connections to your hot end with quick disconnect plugs of some kind or another. It just makes it easier to remove and put back for what ever reason you may have.
sounds good - tell me more! Being a car and bike nut and owning and maintaining - I know tensioners are my friend - it's something that occurred to me as I read through the assembly manual the first few times that tensioners would be a great add-on ;)
When I build it up I'd really like to add all the super useful modifications right from the start :)
So I just added my tensioners last weekend and they are very nice. They do take some adjusting, because I have acquired some corner artifacts on some prints that I never had before, I suspect harmonics from the belts being too tight. But I would still recommend them. Just because I haven't figured them out doesn't mean they aren't worth the effort. Also, I have to be clear here, my printer worked great before I added them, and now I'm having to tune out newly introduced "grunge".
If you can find someone local to print you a set that would be an easy thing to add during your build.
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