S3D version 3.0 is out

jmpreuss · Post by **jmpreuss** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:20 pm

Haven't had a chance to download it yet. According to the marketing it seems they have attempted to address many of the pain points of the product.

KAS · Post by **KAS** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:28 pm

Nice, I'll have to check it out tonight.

This was a big one
"New options to specify the internal infill pattern including 5 new popular infill patterns"

https://www.simplify3d.com/software/changelog/

bot · Post by **bot** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:03 pm

Yeah it's badass. "retract while wiping" will be rejoiced for some on this forum!

JFettig · Post by **JFettig** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:09 pm

I'm heating up my printer for my first test run of it!

Already reported my first bug.

I haven't figured out the 'detour factor'... no matter what I set it to, the travel moves appear the same. Might be the part I'm working with.

bot · Post by **bot** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:54 pm

They explained the detour factor on the forums

https://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2797

Holy1 · Post by **Holy1** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:46 pm

AND they now have included an UNDO feature. great for support placement

JFettig · Post by **JFettig** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:00 am

bot wrote:They explained the detour factor on the forums

https://forum.simplify3d.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2797

I know what it is, just not how far to crank it up

bot · Post by **bot** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:00 pm

Umm, they tell you that...

If the following equation is true, then the toolpath will comb the outer edge rather than cross over empty space.
(TravelDistanceCrossingOverEmptySpace)*(DetourFactor)<(CombingAcrossThePerimetersDistance)

mvansomeren · Post by **mvansomeren** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:29 pm

Awesome! Will I be prompted to download the new version when I open S3D or do I need to go to the website and download it manually?

bot · Post by **bot** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:34 pm

A couple days ago, you had to go to a special link to upgrade your account... that may change soon.

https://cloud.simplify3d.com/account/upgrade

mvansomeren · Post by **mvansomeren** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:45 pm

That worked., thanks.

Jimustanguitar · Post by **Jimustanguitar** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:58 pm

So how incredible is it, actually? Is it the missing link in 3D printing, or is it only marginally snazzier than the freeware and opensource things that are out there?

bot · Post by **bot** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:56 pm

It is, to be honest, on-par or marginally better than the FOSS alternatives, but for me the ease of use and streamlined workflow, and the support (printable support) make it worth it for me.

KAS · Post by **KAS** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:09 pm

I would agree that manually placing support where you need it is the next best thing to designing the part with built-in supports.

Also like configuring the profiles for each filament type(PLA,ABS,Nylon) each with their own settings (Med/High/Fast). Once you have it dialed in, just pick the type of material/ quality and it's all set.

Tincho85 · Post by **Tincho85** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:22 pm

and there is a pirate version of the 2.2.2 version around the web... only 22mb, could it be real?
how much does the 3.0 weights?

JFettig · Post by **JFettig** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:27 pm

Minus any bugs that might exist in the new version(to be expected) Its finally something I'd consider worth the $140.

The software is so much more flexible than freeware slicers. Settings, options, etc.

I have only printed one part on the upgrade but its 99% seamless. This is using my old settings with the "wipe while retract" option and a few other new features. I'm quite happy with it.

KAS · Post by **KAS** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:40 pm

Tincho85 wrote:and there is a pirate version of the 2.2.2 version around the web... only 22mb, could it be real?
how much does the 3.0 weights?

3.0.0 is 23,636KB for the Windows 64bit version.

Tincho85 · Post by **Tincho85** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:14 pm

So it could be real.. that's bad. They will lose lots of future clients.
If they would provide a trial version, people wouldn't risk themselves with a pirate version.

In my case, I would buy the program if it's worth it, but spending $150 with no chance of a preview it makes no sense.

stonewater · Post by **stonewater** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:22 am

will S3D tell you the amount of filament your part will use? are there any other software solutions that do?

Tom C

KAS · Post by **KAS** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:32 am

stonewater wrote:will S3D tell you the amount of filament your part will use? are there any other software solutions that do?

Tom C

Yes, estimate print time, material quantity and cost before printing. 3.0 added feature " New option to specify the filament density for more accurate weight calculations"
I've never used it, not sure how accurate it is.

Jimustanguitar · Post by **Jimustanguitar** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:16 am

Tincho85 wrote:If they would provide a trial version, people wouldn't risk themselves with a pirate version.

^^^this^^^

stonewater wrote:will S3D tell you the amount of filament your part will use? are there any other software solutions that do?

Cura estimates the meters of filament and the part's weight when you slice it, too.

Mac The Knife · Post by **Mac The Knife** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:52 am

And they added more infill patterns, Although taking a casual look at the two different "honeycomb" infills, I don't see any difference between the two.

JFettig · Post by **JFettig** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:37 am

The first one is weird and I don't get why they even included, it prints a layer of partial honeycomb then a full layer of honeycomb and alternates. I've been using the honeycomb for a few prints, I like it. I leave all 3 angles in it but you don't have to if you don't want to. I'll print something with grid infill next time I print.

If I had to guess, it takes longer to print but its much nicer and more reliable than their previous methods.

mhackney · Post by **mhackney** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:58 am

Ok, business for my 3D printed fly reels has been great so I am going to use some of my sales revenue and purchase this 3.0 version if Simplify3D will allow me. I've read all the bug reports on their forum, par for the course given their history with new releases. But, I have enough customers asking for help with S3D that I need to invest a bit so I can help them out as best as possible. Stay tuned.

mhackney · Post by **mhackney** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:25 pm

Off to a not so great start. At least the software installed w/o an issue this time around (on Mac). They still have the moderated first 2 posts in effect on their forum but at least they have a few mods now. This in my humble opinion is brain dead. It is not a way to prevent spam. There are better ways to do that without causing user angst. We implemented such a process on these forums and have eliminated 100% of the spammers without polluting the user namespace. But I digress...

Literally the first part I attempted to slice and print has problems with the generated tool paths. I posted on the S3D forum but don't expect any help. Take a look at the perimeter path generated around the star shaped openings - there is a little "dovetail" path that ends up leaving gaps in the final print not to mention looks horrible. Anyone seen this in v3 or earlier versions?

[img]https://forum.simplify3d.com/download/f ... &mode=view[/img]

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