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Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:43 pm
by Cox
Hey guys,

I just got my Rostock V2 together and I am going to home the towers (had to invert my Z axis) and when I home the unit it crashes into the Y axis. Any thoughts on what is causing it? Did not mod anything in the config other then were I am at in the manual. Page 250...

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:47 pm
by KAS
Sounds like the endstop switch might be wired for the incorrect tower. Make sure the carriage is off the switches, just pull it down gently a bit. Try the M119 command and verify that each switch is working when you manually close the switch with your finger.


Edit: page 249


The M119 command instructs the RAMBo
board to return the current state of the three end
stop switches. The three switches are known as
“x_max”, “y_max”, and “z_max”. Each one
should have an “L” next to it as shown In Fig. 19-
15. If any of them show an “H”, check your
wiring to ensure that the switch is connected
properly at both ends. The printer will not operate
properly if any of the end-stop switches are
reporting “closed” when they're not.


An “L” next to each label indicates that all three end-stop switches have not been pressed. If
you see anything different, please check your wiring as mentioned previously! Now I want you to hold
down the switch lever for the X axis and re-send the M119 command. You should see the x_max value
change to “H”. Do this for the Y and Z axes. This will ensure the end stop switches are functioning –
this is very important for the next step!

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:51 pm
by Cox
Yeah I M119 earlier in the steps and it was checking out alright!

Edit:

Just ran to the Terminal and did it again. Each stop displays the H (max) when I hold it in. Weird!

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:54 pm
by KAS
okay, can you take a picture of the Rambo controller specifically where the steppers are? If you can get the whole board with detail that would be great.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:57 pm
by Tincho85
Hi, What do you mean with crashes into the Y axis?
If you send a g28: Z goes up, X goes up and Y goes down? that?

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:58 pm
by KAS
disregard, I read your reply wrong

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:03 pm
by Cox
When I hit Home (G28) the Y goes up. Z and X do not move which has it crash into the Y column. When I had the INVERT_Y_DIR to false it would just crash down equally.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:10 pm
by Jimustanguitar
Ix X and Z aren't moving, check the wiring to your stepper motors.

***Don't plug and unplug them while the machine is on***
That would be bad for the stepper drivers.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:14 pm
by Cox
Okay, I'll have to tear into it tomorrow night! I appreciate all the comments and if anyone else can think of something else that would be cool.

Thanks all!

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:54 pm
by Cox

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:47 pm
by Cox
However I can move each axis manually as well...

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:01 pm
by KAS
Looks like your steppers might be plugged in backwards.

Page 215:

The connectors you see in Fig. 16-34 are 4
pin latching connectors. That means they've got a little locking tab that positively engages a little ledge
on the inside of the socket that's on the RAMBo.

Sometimes SeeMeCNC has to procure stepper motors from a secondary source. These motors don't have the locking tab feature.
The connector will work just as well as the locking version, but does
look different and can be accidentally inserted backwards. The pin
indicated by the arrow
in the Fig. 16-35.5 is pin #1. This pin is on the right
edge of the connector when you plug it in to the RAMBo
. These motors are
made by Kysan or Automation Technology and are just a little bit different
from the “stock” motors.


This is a pic when I had my Rambo installed.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:41 pm
by Cox
Okay, I switched the connectors to the right way and now instead of the crashing into the Y axis column it goes in the opposite direction!

SO! I went back into the firmware and changed the INVERT_Z_DIR back to true from false. Now when I home it moves towards the X column. Any thoughts? Maybe just a firmware issue?

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:52 am
by KAS
Yea, I would try to clear everything and reload the firmware.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:15 am
by teoman
Have you ever seen the other motors move?

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:13 pm
by Cox
Yeah when I click i can see each motor move...

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:40 am
by teoman
So every component works individually but not together in unison.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:07 pm
by Earthbound
Please post your config.h file.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:19 am
by Cox

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:06 pm
by lightninjay
Based on that video, looks like you need to invert ONLY your Z and Y towers (The two heading DOWN) in your firmware. Keep your X at whatever setting it currently is, and change your current Z and Y tower inverts to the OPPOSITE of what they currently are.

// Inverting axis direction
#define INVERT_X_DIR true
#define INVERT_Y_DIR false
#define INVERT_Z_DIR true

^^This is what you currently have according to the dropbox file you uploaded, but try this vv

// Inverting axis direction
#define INVERT_X_DIR true
#define INVERT_Y_DIR true
#define INVERT_Z_DIR false

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:27 pm
by Cox
Okay! Now we are going in the right direction.

Now it crashes into the end-stop switches! On the terminal they report H when pressed for each one. What would cause it to want to plow through the end stop?

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:35 pm
by teoman
You are absolutels sure that X tower is matched with the X endstop etc... right?

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:25 pm
by Cox
Yup! from what I can tell.

Edit ------------------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=habCugn ... e=youtu.be

exactly what is happening now to mine.

M119 when they hit says H on all. Low when I release.

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:59 pm
by Cox
Another thing I notice is when I click (Movement Controls) X+ it moves the axis down. When I click X- it moves the axis up...

Re: Home Tower Error

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:35 pm
by lightninjay
This may be an irrelevant and unnecessary question, but I must ask...

are you certain that the screws on your carriages are contacting the endstop switches appropriately?

Would you mind posting a video of YOUR printer, rather than someone else's with similar behavior? It is quite possible that theirs was performing similarly but for different reasons.