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Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:51 am
by mhackney
Yes, I got the full kit with electronics. I am running my own power supplies (12V and 24V for heated bed).

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:45 am
by xnaron
mhackney wrote:Yes, I got the full kit with electronics. I am running my own power supplies (12V and 24V for heated bed).
thanks... I think I may need to run my own power supplies as well. I do have a 24V one I could use on the bed.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:53 pm
by xnaron
mhackney wrote:Yes, ver 1.1 RAMBO. 175 on the digi pot. I started at 255 and backed off.
Well 175 seems to be the magic number. I can't detect any skipping. Will need to print another test.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:06 pm
by mhackney
That's good news xnaron! Sometimes slower IS better!

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:11 pm
by Polygonhell
Where did you get the small squirrel cage fans?

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:31 pm
by xnaron
Polygonhell wrote:Where did you get the small squirrel cage fans?

I got them on ebay...these ones http://www.ebay.com/itm/180389680237

my video entry

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:54 pm
by barnett
To make up for my less than perfect pyramid, I submit this video entry. Please forgive my novice (and perhaps cheesy) video skills! Also I apologize for it being 6 min long.

It's on you tube here.

barnett

Re: my video entry

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:31 am
by Flateric
barnett wrote:To make up for my less than perfect pyramid, I submit this video entry. Please forgive my novice (and perhaps cheesy) video skills! Also I apologize for it being 6 min long.

It's on you tube here.

barnett
Actually I thought the video was really well done. I particularly admire your 1st layer adhesion and thickness. Looks flawless.

I'm also impressed with the suckback and restart on the first layer.

I'm no expert but I think perhaps you following layers may be run just a tad bit too hot maybe. A more experienced printer please chime in here.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:19 am
by barnett
Hey thanks! My temp is set at 232 in kisslicer for the whole thing. I could certainly try to lower it a bit. Would that address the goop on the insides of the towers and maybe at the top? I should have requested a slowdown at the top... like min 10 seconds per layer.

Also, I forgot to turn on my desk fan until the towers were already about half a cm high. You can see they're extra sloppy at the bottom.

This is the seemecnc black abs with diameter set at 1.77mm and extrusion multiplier set at 0.94. Single wall test nails the wall thickness with the multiplier set at 0.93, but at 0.93, the pyramid looked like it was starving a bit. Retraction was 10mm at 52mm speed.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:38 am
by Flateric
My hollolw calibration pyramid was also seemecnc abs black.

I just double checked my sizing and mine is 1.69 - 1.71 at it's largest, so perhaps this may explain your "extra" looking extruded filament. With my multipler set to 1.

But I am no longer able to find out what my retraction and retract speed were as that was some time ago.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:27 am
by barnett
Your pyramid is clearly better than mine. My single wall test resulted in thick wall when I had settings closer to yours and my pyramid was pretty stringy.

I might try again next week.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:08 am
by Polygonhell
barnett wrote:Hey thanks! My temp is set at 232 in kisslicer for the whole thing. I could certainly try to lower it a bit. Would that address the goop on the insides of the towers and maybe at the top? I should have requested a slowdown at the top... like min 10 seconds per layer.

Also, I forgot to turn on my desk fan until the towers were already about half a cm high. You can see they're extra sloppy at the bottom.

This is the seemecnc black abs with diameter set at 1.77mm and extrusion multiplier set at 0.94. Single wall test nails the wall thickness with the multiplier set at 0.93, but at 0.93, the pyramid looked like it was starving a bit. Retraction was 10mm at 52mm speed.
The pyramid retracts a lot and that can cause starving with long retracts, I find anything over about 5 or 6 mm is basically impossible to compensate for even with additional filament on restart because the amount it needs varies.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:51 am
by barnett
The pyramid retracts a lot and that can cause starving with long retracts, I find anything over about 5 or 6 mm is basically impossible to compensate for even with additional filament on restart because the amount it needs varies.
Is that because of slipping on the big retraction/feeds?

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:14 pm
by Polygonhell
barnett wrote:
The pyramid retracts a lot and that can cause starving with long retracts, I find anything over about 5 or 6 mm is basically impossible to compensate for even with additional filament on restart because the amount it needs varies.
Is that because of slipping on the big retraction/feeds?
No I'm not slipping, it's because pressure change isn't instantaneous.
If you try compensating with additional filament, you end up with too much filament.

Re: my video entry

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:02 am
by JakeCShake
barnett wrote:To make up for my less than perfect pyramid, I submit this video entry. Please forgive my novice (and perhaps cheesy) video skills! Also I apologize for it being 6 min long.

It's on you tube here.

barnett
Any new videos??? That was pretty cool.....

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:48 pm
by xnaron
First try on my modded rostock max. Magnetic ballends and j-head. Silver ultimachine PLA. 5/5 for retraction in KISS. Seemecnc extruder. 185C temp. I'm speechless....

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:19 am
by Jimustanguitar
Flateric wrote:
aehM_Key wrote:Anybody tried it with ABS? I think it's quite hard..
My posted first print and pyramid test was in ABS
Flateric, do you mind posting your Slic3r settings? That cube looks amazing!

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:07 am
by barnett
xnaron that's as good as it gets!

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:11 pm
by darthviper107
That's a really great result, you're using a different hot end right?

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:09 pm
by Flateric
Jimustanguitar wrote:
Flateric wrote:
aehM_Key wrote:Anybody tried it with ABS? I think it's quite hard..
My posted first print and pyramid test was in ABS
Flateric, do you mind posting your Slic3r settings? That cube looks amazing!
It was so very long ago man I have no idea or way of checking anymore. That was literally the very first thing I had ever printed.

I am about to do another though, with my new mods for testing and I will make note of them.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:21 pm
by xnaron
barnett wrote:xnaron that's as good as it gets!
Yeah I was giddy watching it print :)

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:22 pm
by xnaron
darthviper107 wrote:That's a really great result, you're using a different hot end right?
Yes a J-Head and my own magnetic ball-arms and effector design.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:45 pm
by bplemmons
My Pyramid I just printed today..

kiss 180c
Bill

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:12 pm
by Flateric
bplemmons wrote:My Pyramid I just printed today..

kiss 180c
Bill
I think it's pretty damned good. Beautiful red also.

Re: Rostock Max Hollow Calibration Pyramid Challenge!

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:14 pm
by jesse
Kisslicer, Justpla.com blue PLA 1.75 mm

205c, 60 second min. layer time. 5.5 prime, 5 suck, 0.5 wipe. 0.75 z lift

[img]http://i.imgur.com/rKLtLgw.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/JThpflC.jpg[/img]