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Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 10:06 pm
by Nylocke
This is slightly off topic, but in my most recent order from E3d I got a little something extra... For some reason there was a package of Haribro gummy bears? Does anyone know what this is about?

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 10:06 pm
by mhackney
Yes, they do that with all their orders. Nice guys!

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:16 pm
by lordbinky
Wha? Mine didn't have one.... :shock: CUSTOMS! ARG!

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:22 pm
by Nylocke
I think I got mine because it was away at the bottom :D

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:29 pm
by JohnStack
That's strange, I got two round trip tickets to London with mine. ;)

I got the gummies with mine too.

Every thing I ship out - to friends, customers, everyone - I include a handful of bazooka gum. People love the little stuff. ;)

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 4:37 pm
by mhackney
Hey John, send me a package! I love Bazooka!

cheers,
Michael

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 5:14 pm
by Eaglezsoar
mhackney wrote:Hey John, send me a package! I love Bazooka!

cheers,
Michael
The gum or the weapon? :P

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:06 am
by geneb
Yes.

g.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 5:43 pm
by milosonator
I'm having a lot of the same issues as other people here. Basically I have tried over 10 prints, only 1 succesfull so far: all due to jammed PLA. What is going on? I have a E3D v5 3mm.

I'm using 3mm PLA in a bowden setup, already tried different types of PLA, doesn't seem to make a difference. How can I prevent these jams? Could it be that my nozzle bore is too long? Shorter retracts? (3mm right now)

Please advice!

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 6:13 pm
by mhackney
Retract speed has more influence than distance. Keep it at 25mm/s. 3mm is fine.

Check your bore, read up about 10 pages (!) or search, it's easy and I will wager that that's your problem.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:00 pm
by Flateric
I have to finally chime in here.

I don't really know why or how but I am unable to EVER get this hotend to jam no matter what I throw at it and what temps. PLA, ABS, polycarb, ninjaflex, high-impact abs, color source of plastic anything.

I print PLA at blazing speeds at temps as high as 235 at times. Regular ABS as high as 255. The trick I suppose is to not let the filament sit in the hotend not moving at the end.

I do a retract as soon as I finish printing of 10mm.

I also have the fan on the hotend running full speed from the moment the printer is turned off till it powers down.

If I am going to be printing smaller parts with abs or pla and have throttled back the speed I lower the temp accordingly.

But even still I have forgotten the hotend on with no retract and simply pushed the new PLA through the old pastic sitting in the hotend for hours with no jam.

Perhaps it is because I use a bulldog extruder?

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 10:05 pm
by mhackney
I'm curious, have you measured the bore length of your nozzle?

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:11 pm
by bvandiepenbos
I shortened my bore length to .5 mm ...still can not print PLA with the E3D. ABS works great though.
:cry:

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 11:35 pm
by Tinyhead
Just shortened mine 30mins ago... going to give it a whirl shortly. Fingers crossed.

Sorry to hear yours didn't work out there Brian.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:43 am
by PopolZ
I didn't know the V6 was coming out... I have a V5 coming in hopefully this week.

I hope I'll get PLA friendly nozzles... I'll have the standard .4, .25 and .6mm.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 8:32 am
by mhackney
Brian, what sorts of issues do you have? I know that a few of us had progressed along a debugging curve - polishing the SS barrel, making sure the PTC did not snag, too aggressive gripping of the extruder cog raising burs on the filament, and debarring the entry into the SS tubing. You should be able to easily push the PLA by hand at temperature. If not, move the filament up and down by hand and find where the friction is.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:29 am
by milosonator
I've read up on the whole bore length story, very interesting. Especially since I actually got a E3D because I thought it would print PLA just fine! I'd rather have it working, but I ain't scared of a challenge to fix this problem.
mhackney wrote:Retract speed has more influence than distance. Keep it at 25mm/s. 3mm is fine.

Check your bore, read up about 10 pages (!) or search, it's easy and I will wager that that's your problem.
I'll take that wager ;) . Did you use a 2mm drill on a 3mm-filament-nozzle to decrease the bore length??

I think I'm going to take a measure of my bore, and put it up here. Does anyone have a good drawing of the 3mm nozzle? because I want to know how much deeper I can make the bore, without making the nozzle walls too thin.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 9:34 am
by mhackney
I only have 1.75mm nozzles. I have read (in this thread I think) that a 3mm drill will penetrate the side of the nozzle because of the cutting angle, so use a 2mm drill bit and use fingers to twist it. Go slow and check often.

I don't think there is a drawing of the 3mm nozzle. Do the plug measurement and then we should be able to draw one up.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:23 am
by milosonator
It is in the freezer now. Ill update when I get it out and measure.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:41 am
by Nylocke
I used a 1/8" bit I had. It was a Milwaukee one, I think it was 135 degree point. I got to around 1.3mm I think before I broke it. So if you try it with a 3mm bit I wouldn't go much more than 1.4.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:50 am
by milosonator
Nylocke wrote:I used a 1/8" bit I had. It was a Milwaukee one, I think it was 135 degree point. I got to around 1.3mm I think before I broke it. So if you try it with a 3mm bit I wouldn't go much more than 1.4.
I got a 2mm drill. I have Didn't manage to pull the PLA from the nozzle though. Is there a trick to do it?

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 11:57 am
by mhackney
Don't hold the nozzle in your hand! Hold it with pliers so it stays cold longer. I use a twisting motion to break it free then pull.

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:05 pm
by lordbinky
Sounds like an excuse to buy dry ice to me 8-) .

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:11 pm
by mhackney
Dry Ice - perfect!

Re: E3D V4 All metal hotend

Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 12:59 pm
by milosonator
And that, coming from the Ice King ;) Are the Adventure Time avatars a thing here?