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New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:08 pm
by Jefrysuko
Hi All,

I got this printer assembles a couple weeks ago and I'm having some troubles. With some prints the x axis stops on the initial decent as it is trying to take the hot end to z=0. I've only gotten a couple successful prints out of it. One being the PEEK fan shroud. I have not been able to print the Layer fan at all as it has this problem every time. I am using MaterControl still using the settings as instructed in the user manual.

Here is a video of what is happening. Any help would be appreciated.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLVJkkF02U[/youtube]

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:11 pm
by barry99705
Jefrysuko wrote:Hi All,

I got this printer assembles a couple weeks ago and I'm having some troubles. With some prints the x axis stops on the initial decent as it is trying to take the hot end to z=0. I've only gotten a couple successful prints out of it. One being the PEEK fan shroud. I have not been able to print the Layer fan at all as it has this problem every time. I am using MaterControl still using the settings as instructed in the user manual.

Here is a video of what is happening. Any help would be appreciated.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLVJkkF02U[/youtube]
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Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:41 pm
by Jefrysuko
Ahhh, I was wondering why it wasn't embedding!

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:21 pm
by mhackney
Your problem is classic binding. Your carriage is stalling. There are multiple reasons for this and I'd check in this order

1) jogging speed and acceleration too high. Lower these by 50% and test. What are your speeds and accelerations?

2) mechanical binding - X carriage not adjusted properly

3) stepper current too high

4) stepper current too low

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:34 pm
by Jefrysuko
mhackney wrote: 1) jogging speed and acceleration too high. Lower these by 50% and test. What are your speeds and accelerations?
Specifically you are talking about max feedrate and travel acceleration correct?
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Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:43 pm
by mhackney
Yes.

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:30 pm
by Jefrysuko
ok, lowered max feedrate to 150 and travel acceleration to 1500. No problems on the initial travel to Z=0 like before. Is it safe to leave these settings this way or is it going to be a limitation in the future?

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:52 am
by Holy1
If it were me I would find what was causing the initial problem. Slowing The speeds down is just masking the underlying problem. Sure, it's nice that that it is working at the moment but it would drive me nuts not knowing the why. It does look like a mechanical/binding problem.

Re: New Rostock Max V2 hot end crashing into x axis tower

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:23 am
by mhackney
I agree with Holy1. There is no harm in going slow but try to find the root cause so you can increase your travel speed. Acceleration speed is not much of an issue. Do this:

start to increase travel speed but leave acceleration at the lower value. Do it in steps and creep up on the 300 mm/s in 25 mm/s increments. How high can you go?